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Black Forest Dance, take 3


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drakonis

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Close your eyes, and come with me. It is a warm Autumn eve in the Black Forest. There are ancient folk tales about this magical wood... how late at night it comes to life with mischievious fairies and wood nymphs. Any mortal who hears the unusual, hauntingly romantic dance music, will be enchanted, drawn into the heart of the forest, and will never return. Hush! Do you hear them? They're calling, gathering for the dance...

Extra Notes: I wanted to create an unusual dance, something that felt just a little off-kilter, strange, but catchy at the same time. I wrote a melody that switched between minor and major, and also wrote an unusual rhythmic "loping" feel between the cellos, strings, and clarinet. It is in 4/4 time, but doesn't want to be... I'm dubbing it a "faux-trot". This is for all of us who have delightfully quirky eternal romances. Deepest thanks to my wife who inspires my music, and guided and critiqued this piece so thoughtfully. She really wanted the middle section to be a full-fledged-fugue, but it is a simpler canon ("round") for now as I learn more about composition. By the way, this is written as a quintet (clarinet, flute, violin, viola, violincello), not a full orchestral piece, and I have the score in hand, hoping to get it performed soon.

Version 3 Notes (Update - May 22, 2011): Extended per prior critiques here at Macjams. Modulation added going into the canon/development, and detailed work on violin parts and dynamics. The prior version can be found here for comparison: http://www.macjams.com/song/36524
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Comments
magnatone said 2395 days ago (May 22nd, 2011)
FIRSTIES!!
WOOT!
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magnatone said 2395 days ago (May 22nd, 2011)
Black Forest
eduard, this is FABULOUS!!! what care you've taken with the feel and sound of each instrument. i'm SO impressed by what you've done here - congratulations dragon man - you should be very proud indeed!
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drakonis said 2394 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
months of OCTD paid off?
Now you know why I kept missing the OCTD meetings... I was busy working on this. So you realize that condoning this behavior will lead to more tweaks? :-) Actually, I think this may be close to "finished", and ready to print the scores! Thank you for your encouragement and sneaky promotions in chat, you are a great friend and fellow OCTD team member. My turn to bring cookies for the next meeting...
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lyzak said 2395 days ago (May 22nd, 2011)
'Delightfully quirky'
'Delightfully quirky' is a great expression. Were I to encounter these sounds late night in a forest - I'd go right in. Can tell it would be a wonderos place where I belonged.
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drakonis said 2394 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
Come on in... the water's fine!
I'm certainly enjoying being "delightfully quirky". And it is good to hear that you too are drawn by the music, that's a great compliment, thank you for visiting and commenting! And I see you have a new one, off to listen & comment!
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Dadai.2 said 2395 days ago (May 22nd, 2011)
Faux-trot....
... faux or real, this is one beautiful composition. I have to think that you fully realized your inspiration in this recording. Drak, what talented writing and professional execution.! A delight to listen to start to finish.

Jack
drakonis said 2394 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
Just Go Faux it!
Jack, thank you for listening and offering your thoughts! I'm grateful to have your ear, and to find that you were delighted with the composition and recording work is exciting to me!
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kassia said 2395 days ago (May 22nd, 2011)
wow
the opening clarinet caught my attention and the rest just playfully tossed me about for the ride. beautifully written and rendered. i love the play between major and minor. this is wonderful.
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drakonis said 2394 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
My cygneture instrument
With a little (well, OK, a lot) of careful tweaking, the Jampack symphony can sound quite good it seems! I did like spending time with velocity curves on this, as well as rewriting chunks to make it more interesting and "quirky". Very happy to hear your positive words. Now HURRY UP with your CD, sheesh, I'm pacing! :)

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johnwhitehead said 2395 days ago (May 22nd, 2011)
Dance
What a lovely piece. Very inventive melodically. I enjoyed the choice of instruments and their complex interplay. Love the last third especially.
Beautifully done.
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drakonis said 2394 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
last third... noted!
Thank you John, I love hearing what parts of my music work, don't work, and catch attention. After working on something like this (literally for years), I tend to lose perspective. I look forward to your professional and knowledgeable opinions here.
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VicDiesel said 2395 days ago (May 22nd, 2011)
delightful
Ok, this has a lot of things going for it. Great use of orchestral winds, and the rhythmic unpredictability.

Minor nit: the pizzicato strings are about 100x as loud as they would be in real life.

Major nit: the texture is far too thin for a symphony orchestra. After your intro I was expecting that phrase to develop into something grand, but it just didn't get there. One of the things missing is that you limit your strings mostly to one violin and cello or bass. (If that's a bass it sounds too upfront. Listen to a a classical recording to see what a orchestral bass sounds like.)

For instance in the first 20 seconds you actually have two violins going, but then the second one drops out and stays out. Take the passage after 0:20 and write a full string section: vn1 vn2, vla, c, b. It's not that hard and it will make the piece sound ever so much fuller.

That said, after my disappointment over your last one (Phoenix?) this one has much more variation and more sense of going somewhere. Good stuff!
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drakonis said 2394 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
Quintet, oops
I neglected to mention in the description that this was written as a quintet (clarinet, flute, violin, viola, violincello), so you are correct in not hearing the rest of the orchestra, they weren't invited that day :-) So yes, it does sound a bit thin. However, I did write in for the violin & viola to occasionally play on two strings, to thicken up the harmonies, but I left the overall piece a little light... perhaps I need a richer spot, a dissonant thicket somewhere?

As for the pizz... DANG! I messed that up completely... I was working on final levels and boosted the pizz viola & violin (and added a teeny delay to violas to let them stand out from violins a bit), sounded good, then forgot and lowered OTHER instruments, and didn't catch that those sections now were too loud. OK, I can fix that, thank you Victor!

As always, my sincere thanks for your critical and helpful ear... great thoughts and suggestions. I'm glad this is shaping up and is an enjoyable listen for you.
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Social_Ice said 2395 days ago (May 22nd, 2011)
frau-licking amidst....
mein guter Freund Mechthilde is from the Black Forest region of Germany and also whips up a wonderfully sumptuous Black Forest cake...

So as my imagination began to run wild through the Black Forest, I recall glimpses of these woodland fairies and nymphs hopping from one cherry to the next... frau-licking amidst the deep dark waves of shaved chocolate and thick foamy whipped cream...

a tastefully, delightful sample of your much inspired vivid creations Count Drac...!! ~barbara
drakonis said 2394 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
Wall Zing, Mechthilde
Apologies for that weak response... I'm afraid that your "frau-licking" bi-lingual double-entendre left me nearly (not completely) speechless for a moment.
(regains some composure..)
It is good to go out and have a frolicking-good time now and again, and if I can offer you such vividly low-calorie black-forest desserts, that makes my day! Now, if only we can coax some music out of you soon! :-)
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Social_Ice said 2394 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
Con OH tay Shuns....
the bi-lingual double-entendre was not intended as an action verb, or lingering thought at the conception of my vivid imagination during word play and music play, however i am now noting it's various dual-purpose con OH tay shuns......

I just follow where the mind goes....sometimes down the dark and winding road...through the Black Forest..:):):)
Symphony101 said 2395 days ago (May 22nd, 2011)
Great piece
The first time I heard this goes quite long back, a very nice work Eduard. Beautiful music, it just tells the story you described.
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drakonis said 2394 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
Dancylvania, even!
It is ancient... but I guess that says something about me too :-) I'm glad it gets a bit of the mystery and magic across, that's good to hear! Somehow I have neglected your latest post, off to listen and comment. Thank you as always, Yves.
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Jarvoid said 2395 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
Sadly I did not find the
Schwarzwald in actuality to be quite as romantic as your wonderful tune but nevertheless the notion is an inspiration.

Now what is all this about having fugging cannons in the middle ....I thought that was in the 1812 overture ?!

Great job and a nice breezy little romp before bed this morning....I am now free for three whole weeks .....Wahay !!

Cheers

Chris.
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drakonis said 2394 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
Objects in your imagination may appear larger than reality
There's not much of it left, and I believe that overbearing parents hyped it up a little when making up bedtime stories for (us) spoiled children :-)

Sorry about the Tchaikovsky reference to canons, I think the French snuck them in while I wasn't looking.

You have three weeks off? I thought you were always a little off, but perhaps that was just PockmanBlues trying to disparage you again. Enjoy the holidays, and please take some time to record a new ditty, I miss your witty pretty ditties!
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Jarvoid said 2394 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
Now Bavaria (Bayern)...
now that is truly romantic and magical.....sorry Schwarzwald you got too commercial !
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drakonis said 2394 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
Schwan... Schwangau region of Bavaria...
Hi Chris, I have to admit that when I got a chance to travel to Bayern, I really loved the area, especially loved Mad Ludwig's PARENT's castle (Hohenschwangau). But that's a different story... :-)
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alackbass said 2395 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
Black Forest Dance
Wow! Eduard, I'm very impressed by your composing and orchestrating skills. I love a piece built on winds and stings. The perfect pallet to conjure a mysterious forest. I love the plucked strings. This is outstanding work!
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drakonis said 2393 days ago (May 24th, 2011)
conjure me a forest...
And it worked! Yay! Thank you Andrew... I had fun with the plucky stuff too, even had the cello do a little pizzicato at the end. Off to find something of yours I haven't commented on...
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gadzooks said 2395 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
Amazing
I can't critique something like this with any background to support it but I can say it is a beautiful piece to my ears. Right from the start of the first clarinet note to the gentle flute it takes you on a visual journey. But the cello is my favorite. What is making that cello sound? At about 4:24 I think it would sound great to have more of a full violin section as that note rises in volume and then you end. I admire that you can compose such a wonderful painted piece of music like this. I enjoyed it very much.
SG
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drakonis said 2393 days ago (May 24th, 2011)
your comments are gold...
critiques or not, just knowing what you like and that it takes you on a journey is great news to me. And I do love cello too, and worked on that sound a LOT to make it realistic. The cello is my secret sauce in here, but I'll let you in on it... it is actually a gentle mixture of the Jampack Cello and the Fitch Cello, carefully blended and given different articulations (a "little" work :) ). I forgot to mention that this was written as a quintet, so I'm limiting myself to a small ensemble, however, you mention a build at 4:24... hey, I can do that with the existing instruments! OK, so now maybe I am not quite done, I'll listen and see what I can do where you mention the change could happen, thanks! I appreciate your careful listen and thoughts a great deal.
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ted23 said 2395 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
Zelda!
The music perfectly suits your description.
Are you familiar with nintendo's zelda video games? Especially ocarina of time. Well this would fit in wonderfully with it's style, story and imagery of elfs, magic fun and adventure... You should send it to them! :)
Very cool
drakonis said 2390 days ago (May 27th, 2011)
Link is broken...
Zelda... I've heard of the games of course, but never played them (hangs head in shame)... my daughter even made herself a Link costume one year. But I have played some others, and the classical/soundtrack-ish type video game music is probably in my blood... but I couldn't possibly write this every week :-) I need to keep my day job. But for fun and hobbies, if you like it and think it's on a par with commercial games, I'm jazzed! Thank you for the comparison!
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gail60 said 2395 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
May I have this dance?
Excellent work as always my friend. You certainly know how to tell a story and this is wonderful. You are always the enchanting dragon and by far the most talented :) Thanks for all you do...in music and in friendship to everyone here.
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drakonis said 2390 days ago (May 27th, 2011)
Left right left...
You dance divinely, m'lady, thank you. And thank you for enjoying my music, and offering us your incredible music too, I wish I could write and play like you can, sigh.
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billykirsch said 2394 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
Drak
I love the melody and the way it is developed. I am astonished with the variations you get from the basic form. The instruments and the composition sound very natural to my ears. I still need to go to the previous version to have an idea of the evolution of this piece, but this sounds excellent as is.
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drakonis said 2390 days ago (May 27th, 2011)
Theme and variations
I had lots of fun bringing the little triplet-motif back in different places and ways, trying to get it stuck in your brain. I'm now pretty happy with it, and if you're offering a nod to it too, then that's a big "OK" in my book, thank you Billy!
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TobinMueller said 2394 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
A ballet
I love the earnestness, the dramatic sound to the flute. This really sounds like a ballet. LIke something from Sleeping Beauty when the sorceress' forest minions are let lose up the unsuspecting princess. Really nice panning of instruments. Shooting for a fugue sounds like a great forest hunt. I totally dig how people stretch themselves at MJ. Thanks for keeping at this, and sharing your journey. Also, very entertaining imaginative music.
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drakonis said 2390 days ago (May 27th, 2011)
Tchaikovsky influences...
Grew up on his stuff... and will be taking my wife to see the Moscow Ballet perform Sleeping Beauty next Winter. This has been quite a stretch for me, but I am loving the exercise (pop! Ow... now I need to lay down and rest...) I always treasure your comments and thoughts Tobin, thank you for taking time to listen and write what crossed your mind during this journey!
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Gaylen75 said 2394 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
Black
This has many of the elements I like about classical. Playful and poetic I can tell that a lot of time went into this because of how involved I was with the music and uninvolved in thinking about your process. I was taken in. I can only make one true critisism and that is I would have loved to hear this performed by a real throng of musicians. Great!
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drakonis said 2390 days ago (May 28th, 2011)
lost in the moment is good!
Perfect, if I got you lost in the forest, the magic is working, woohoo! Gaylen, thank you for listening and commenting... I know this is still MIDI (tweaked like heck), but oh yes, I am now bent on shopping the score around town here, we'll see if I can rustle up a quintette later this Summer, that would be a dream for me to attend a performance (preferably with my video camera rolling :-)
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RochaMalhada said 2394 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
Yet...
I'd Like to hear this performed by a live orchestra/ensemble... I think there's a human factor that seems to be almost impossible to replicate digitally. - The ambient (stage setting) of the group, the nuance of human error or effect of touch; the sound of the group as a whole, even as the live group might be captured in a recording.

For example, the cello in here sounds as if it is an instrument on it's own track in a DAW project.

Still my favorite of yours to date, Eduard. I love this piece.

. - Harold
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drakonis said 2390 days ago (May 28th, 2011)
OK, more tweaks needed...
Harold, your careful listens and thoughts are great. I actually did leave the cello track(s) a teensy bit drier than the rest, because they were getting muddy. I'll try a different approach when I finalize this (got some great ideas from you and others now, so it ain't done!) So glad this is your fave. And yes, I'm then off to find some unsuspecting musicians around these parts. Stay tuned!
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Six-Nail-Coffin said 2394 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
Wow.
This is great! Fully realized, and taliored well. Just enough danger to the romance to keep it exciting!
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drakonis said 2388 days ago (May 29th, 2011)
romance, danger, lust...
what more could one want? Your music is always dramatic and thought-provoking, Adam, so if I caught your attention, my day is made!
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H3nry said 2394 days ago (May 23rd, 2011)
Light in the forest.
Has that feel of light glimmering hither and yon, but somehow I kept expecting some dark, sinister, drakonian measures to jump out at me. I suppose it was the BLACK Forest that gave me the idea. Anyways, very spritely dance with the feel of having to hop over the occasional tree root. I think you succeeded.
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drakonis said 2388 days ago (May 29th, 2011)
foreboding, with a smirk
Drak cannot stay dark too long :-) Happy to tickle your fancy, now to listen to your latest too!
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dimm witness said 2394 days ago (May 24th, 2011)
whole nother level
outstanding.
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drakonis said 2390 days ago (May 28th, 2011)
level up...
This music stuff is hard, but fun... isn't it?
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neilh79 said 2394 days ago (May 24th, 2011)
Black Forest
wow... its like an old school childrens story the way it breezes from one chapter to the next. excellent job Eduard well done
drakonis said 2389 days ago (May 28th, 2011)
Whispered chapters
If it is telling you olde tales, then the magic is working! Thanks for delving into the forest with me Neil!
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RAVENS said 2393 days ago (May 24th, 2011)
Magical
Mischievous fairies...Hmmm, fairies are wonderful aren't they? This was certainly enchanting, lured me in for sure. Lovely piece, Eduard.

RAVEN ;-)
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drakonis said 2389 days ago (May 28th, 2011)
Fae are wonderful...
but only if you can capture them and keep them on YOUR side :-) Thank you for flitting down to see what all the fuss was about, I always appreciate a visit from you.
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Sigmund said 2393 days ago (May 24th, 2011)
Black Forest
Wow Eduard this is impressive. Switching between minor and major is done so effectively you don't even notice the dissonance, and your orchestration is simply very well done. Such variation of theme and instrumentation and this is just a wonderful listen. Very nice work I really enjoyed this - thank you!
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drakonis said 2389 days ago (May 28th, 2011)
diss n dat
Wow, if I captivated Mr.-soaring-music-maker, I'm happy! Thank you for listening to this latest (and close to last) incarnation of this thing! And it is close to done because you are telling me it is enjoyable. Great to hear.
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dave_b said 2393 days ago (May 24th, 2011)
Black Forest Dance, take 3
Not my genre, but this runs the gamut of emotions happy, sad, playful at the same time.
I guess wood nymphs and fairies have some of the same environmental concerns as the rest of us. Obviously a real achievement, congratulations.
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drakonis said 2388 days ago (May 29th, 2011)
galumphing the gamut
One of the highest compliments is if you don't normally listen to this and it keeps you interested, so thank you for listening and commenting, Dave! I think the Naiads and dryads might be gearing up for some push-back soon :-)
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PatriciaGirl said 2393 days ago (May 24th, 2011)
Great Eduard!
Lovely orchestration you have here. In my imagination, I can picture images of dancing flutes, clarinets and strings, fantasia comes into mind. Which is good! Most of the time in my head, its with monsters and nightmarish phantasmagoria :) Always amazed with your writing ability. Keep up the good work! Thanks for sharing...patty :)
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drakonis said 2388 days ago (May 29th, 2011)
Dark and light
The world is far too full of phantasmagoria... I agree that there needs to be more levity and dancing. And thank YOU for your great music too!
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PeterB7858 said 2393 days ago (May 24th, 2011)
Spacious
Hi Eduard. You certainly achieved your aim. And then some. This piece perfectly conjures up the images you allude to in the description. It is a wonderfully spacious mix as well that sounds fantastic. Congratulations! Regards, Peter.
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drakonis said 2388 days ago (May 29th, 2011)
drawing pictures with music
Music has often written stories in my head, so I have always strived to offer the same when writing my own music... and I've found out how hard that is to do! But I'm excited to know that I am starting to get there, thanks for listening and letting me know it is working!
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davisamerica2 said 2393 days ago (May 24th, 2011)
Truly, a musical adventure.
Closing your eyes while listening to this, you can leave this world for a while. It was an enjoyable trip, Eduard. Thanks. T
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drakonis said 2384 days ago (June 2nd, 2011)
Welcome back Terry
Music seems to be a very good way to step away from the ever-present troubles of the day, if even for a moment. Good to send you off into the forest, and good to have you back again :-)
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Saltaireguru77 said 2393 days ago (May 25th, 2011)
Beautiful
Eduard this is such a fantastic piece. I love all the little nuances and plucked strings playing counterpoint to the flute and the deeper pull of the viola in the background. What impresses me most is that it has "sections". You could easily have gotten about three songs out of this if you were lazy (which you're clearly not!) bu they all fit so well within the context of this. Of all the things it reminded me of, it took me back to school and listening to the Peer Gynt suite and the stories the music. Then onto German class where I learned the word for black forest gateaux i Schwartzwalder Kirschtorte - which I thought was the most fantastic sounding phrase I'd heard. Thanks for the musical journey and the accompanying stroll down memory lane! Excellent stuff.
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drakonis said 2384 days ago (June 2nd, 2011)
classical sections
I never completely got the fluid impressionistic music that just wafts from here to there, I like structure and repeats in my classical music :-) And oh, German class and words in High school! My favorite was Birthday Cake... "Geburtstagskuchen". Peer Gynt is very cool music too, mine was Prokofiev's Peter and the wolf, that I just disappeared into... and actually the reason I took up clarinet (braces precluded me from choosing french horn :-). Thank you for listening, commenting, and bringing up memories for me too!
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paul f. page said 2392 days ago (May 25th, 2011)
Imaginative...
It is very cool to keep hearing this tune (dut..dut..dut...duuuu) in its many iterations. You have really refined this over so many months and the inventive twists, changes in melodic direction, and instrumentation all lead to a rich tapestry of story telling that could be the stuff of a ballet sequence. Nice... And that minor-major element I had disliked in a previous version just somehow magically works here. I am glad you stuck to your guns on that one. (I'd have probably chickened out.) I am so appreciative of the care you have taken not only with the composition itself, but also with your recording of it. Bravo!!!
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drakonis said 2384 days ago (June 2nd, 2011)
Yay, it passed the Paul Page test!
Thank you for your careful listens and suggestions all along. I've made a couple last tweaks, and have sheet music in hand. Off to find a chamber group.
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Llarion said 2390 days ago (May 27th, 2011)
OK, it's settled. You're a freak.
How the hell do you think this stuff up? :) Man, you have so much going on, I can't even imagine, much less conjure into life. If I could bestow a gift onto you, it'd be to somehow give you the chance to hear a skilled full symphony (or the appropriate instrumentation, as applicable) play all your pieces... Wowness...
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drakonis said 2384 days ago (June 2nd, 2011)
Moi?
I take that as the highest form of flattery, you know! :-) There really are soooo many fun things to do in this life, I just try to do some of them, that's all. But now it is time to see if I can find some skilled performers... playing an instrument (or 6) like you do is definitely not something I'll EVER accomplish!
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ShadowofNine said 2390 days ago (May 27th, 2011)
Take 3
masterful, playful, and whimsical...superb...
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drakonis said 2384 days ago (June 2nd, 2011)
Whimsy!
Yay, that is always something lurking in my hindbrain... glad it peeks out sometimes! Thank you Dave, always love and get inspired by your music!
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Skweryl said 2390 days ago (May 28th, 2011)
TYHANK YOU FOR CHAT WITH SKWERYL!
WE ENJOY YOU AND YOUR MUSIC VERY MUCH THIS REMINDS SKWERYL OF BUGS BUNNY MUSIC IN GOOD WAY!
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drakonis said 2384 days ago (June 2nd, 2011)
There was one day...
I was reminded of Bugs Bunny music in the WORST WAY, and that was a very bad no good awful day. SO I AM GLAD TO CHAT WITH YOU AND REMIND YOU OF BUGS BUNNY IN A GOOD WAY, YEW WASCAWY WABITT!
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Komrade K said 2389 days ago (May 28th, 2011)
Balletic
Got a late 19th/1st half 20th century feel to this. Very accomplished arrangement: I'm liking the way in which the themes are played around the ensemble. Particularly enjoyed the pizzicato strings sections which briefly give a tango vibe.

Nice work!

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drakonis said 2384 days ago (June 2nd, 2011)
Tango is good...
anything to evoke some dance thoughts... and if I snuck my heavily-velocity-hand-tweaked violins under your radar so you didn't just sigh and walk away, I feel like I did something right! Must not have been that bad. Thanks for listening, and it is good to see you around again, let's get some more REAL violin work from you now!
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hackneybloke said 2389 days ago (May 29th, 2011)
blCK FOREST
excellent romp. it almost sounds like the real thing....very impressive. would be good to hear it played by an official team. i found there was a little too much pizzi generally....it made it too 'stop and start'...would have liked some variation and sustained notes to create a different dynamic and mood in places. however, that said....this is a really fantastic creation....something to be very proud of.
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drakonis said 2384 days ago (June 2nd, 2011)
great thoughts...
Thanks for the feedback, I agree on the Pizz, I accidentally left them far too loud in the mix, and that could account for some pizzafatigue. But I'll also look at adding more legato notes in places to add the texture you are suggesting before wrapping this up. Hopefully the next time you hear it, it'll be "the real thing"... wish me luck!
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Wildcat said 2388 days ago (May 29th, 2011)
A song like a story
I can picture all the ones that live in the Black Forest. A song like a fairytail. Beautiful.
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drakonis said 2384 days ago (June 2nd, 2011)
The Geman Fae come out to play
Good to see you Tanja, thank you for listening and enjoying.
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Bowman said 2388 days ago (May 29th, 2011)
A piece
to sit down and savor all the delicious details within. As with perhaps all your work every note is thought out and carefully placed and here very well placed indeed Eduard.
Cheers,
Charlie
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drakonis said 2383 days ago (June 3rd, 2011)
deep bow, man
Thanks Charlie, I was hoping you would swing by to listen to this... I have always been interested in your music and your thoughts on mine.
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PrototypeEightyOne said 2388 days ago (May 29th, 2011)
Myst ified
I play so many fantasy games and watch so many fantasy films that I feel right at home listening to this composition. I love the melody you've weaved here. Great stuff Eduard.
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drakonis said 2383 days ago (June 3rd, 2011)
we myst you!
I played Myst a few times long ago, as well as Myth and 7th Guest, but not many others... but I admit to always being impressed by the music written for them. Will we be hearing more from you, Jay? I've certainly missed you around here!
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Mosaica said 2388 days ago (May 29th, 2011)
Delightful
you create a fantastic picture through music. Beautiful medley of instruments although the cello sounds a little "buzzy" to my ear? An enjoyable frolic!
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drakonis said 2380 days ago (June 6th, 2011)
Buzzing through the forest
Happy to immerse you in imagery! Yes, the cello, I find that the Apple Jampack cello is too "bland" and the "Fitch Cello" is too buzzy, so I tried to melt them together here a bit... perhaps I need to adjust the balance of those two a little more, or maybe get a real cellist to perform it. In the mean time, I am loving your music, thanks for the latest Lakme post!
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jiguma said 2388 days ago (May 29th, 2011)
Nicely done Eduard!
I've tried doing this sort of thing and as a result can understand the time and thought that's gone into this lovely piece. Some neat little surprises and great ideas.
Very cool piece of work.
Neil
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drakonis said 2380 days ago (June 6th, 2011)
from idea to reality...
it is a long journey, but I think this piece is finally about there. Neil, I appreciate your talent and ear, and am thrilled you liked the ideas and surprises here!
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moorlandt said 2388 days ago (May 29th, 2011)
what a work
of art. Sounds so natural. Magnificently detailed. Man o man, I'm in awe. You have to tell me more about your virtual instruments and production. But besides all this, the whole piece shines. Brilliant composition. Thanks mate.
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drakonis said 2380 days ago (June 6th, 2011)
Come on over Walter!
How I'd love to sit and spend a few days trading secrets with you, as you have so many amazing techniques and ideas too. The quick answer to your question is:
-Scored note by note in Harmony Assistant notation software over a few years (a little at a time)
-(Secret sauce used to separate legato from staccato and pizz notes, for different articulations)
-transferred MIDI into GarageBand.
-hand-tweaked many many note velocity curves to get realistic sounding performance sound.
-worked on room reverb and delay to get good recording sound.

There you go, now you know my secrets. Don't tell anyone!
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Doug Somers said 2386 days ago (May 31st, 2011)
This is a v2 to v3 upgrade you could charge for :)
Eduard, this has a much more open, welcoming, engaging and detailed sound than what I heard in v2. All of the instruments sound much more alive and immediate, and each is clearly heard in the mix. The early violin entries are at a much more effective level in the mix for example. The glock is gone, which I guess was a matter of taste. I can understand why you might have left it out, and I don't hear a lack because of it despite remembering v2 even before I went back to have a listen. The string line answering the woodwinds at 3:05 is a better element in this version over v2 I think. The pizz basses at 3:58 also come through much better to compliment the flute. I hear that the ending has a little more flourish, and I think it is cleaner and more fitting of the rest of the piece. And, I still like the major minor flip you weave into this. It works for me. I love how you have the flute and clarinet dance with each other too. Nice writing. I'm sure there are countless other additions you have made to give us such a pleasurable listen this time around.

Nits: none. Sorry, I tried.

I really hope you find an ensemble to play this live for you. It deserves such a treatment.

Be well,
Doug
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drakonis said 2380 days ago (June 6th, 2011)
free admission
I am glad you don't miss the glockenspiel... I struggled with dropping it, as I like the sound (um, but not when it is dropped), but I also wanted to rework this into something that I might actually find real people to perform, so I narrowed the array of instruments a bit.

small to giant changes all over the place, for example the modulation I snuck in there too. And then all the work on velocity curves in GB making it sound clean and human-played. I'm thrilled to hear you say that it all seems to work, thank you for your ear, as always! I have some e-mails out to local musicians now, we'll see what happens!

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FatherTime said 2386 days ago (May 31st, 2011)
sounds for dancers
I picture some sort of ballet going on during this. It sounds like the rhythm was quantified or something, I feel it could've been helped by more slow expressional rhythm in places. Musically though it was elaborate, quite nice.
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drakonis said 2379 days ago (June 7th, 2011)
swing time
Yes, this was scored then rendered and played via MIDI, and I didn't "loosen up" the tempo, that would be a good idea though. But if I can pull it together, maybe I'll have real musicians get into the swing of it and it will sound much better! Thank you for listening and offering your thoughtful and appreciated comments!
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Carrie71 said 2386 days ago (May 31st, 2011)
Black Forest. Take 3...
Wow thanks for taking me to a magical place. This is superb. The flutes are tasty. What a wonderful way to end my night! Thank you!
drakonis said 2379 days ago (June 7th, 2011)
Being a clarinet player in high school
I used to always have a crush on the flute players :-) Glad you enjoyed the black forest "Wood" winds :-)
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SISTERS said 2384 days ago (June 2nd, 2011)
kudos, dragon dude!
well, now that's Black Forest music if ever I heard Forest Music.
that switch back and forth from minor to major is a COOL idea and it works. the low bowing cello is a lovely voice and the exactly opposite in tone flute is perfect. wonderful quiet spots within the piece - 1:59's cello is sooooo good there. i marvel at how this must have been thought out, then marvel again at the execution. the change at 4:10 is beautiful. bravo! anne
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drakonis said 2376 days ago (June 10th, 2011)
Sans voce
The mistress of singing harmonies likes my instrumental music, yay! Thank you for stopping by, and thank you especially for pointing out specific things that I did in there that you noticed and liked, that's really helpful to me to know what works! Always love your music too!
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egobandit said 2383 days ago (June 3rd, 2011)
Im
Always late , sorry this is one not to be missed, its like Bach meet phillip glass they have tea , they discuss the latest unrest in the world decide it will never happen here and go on their merry way, or maybe not enjoyed downloaded and thank you!
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drakonis said 2376 days ago (June 10th, 2011)
Bach Forest Glass?
Well Tim, that would be a meeting indeed. Happy I could inject some thoughtful discourse in the forest for you, even if your choice of participants left me "stumped" :-)
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TracyVosh said 2379 days ago (June 7th, 2011)
Flute dance
Wow, this is so beautiful Eduard! I love the bouncing between the strings and woodwinds...it's fun and light and makes my heart dance. Lovely!
drakonis said 2376 days ago (June 10th, 2011)
a rhythmia
Dancing hearts are happy hearts! This required a lot of bouncing, but I think it is complete, and I can print it!
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SerenaS said 2376 days ago (June 10th, 2011)
Naughty and nice
Those cheeky fairies certainly enchanted me. I'm trying to decide which creature is producing the lowest range - I see a slow old toad (or it could be a curious bear) and as much as he wants to dance he can't keep up with the pesky somersaulting imps in their sparkling rondeau.
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drakonis said 2376 days ago (June 10th, 2011)
naughty and nice always enchants me too...
There are tree nymphs who tend to be slower and more graceful than the water sprites, but the cello, well, I have my own thoughts on that too, but a slow old curious bear caught in the enchanting music is a good one too! Looking forward to your next one.
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ktb said 2375 days ago (June 11th, 2011)
Black Forest Dance
Some real theory and skill showing through on your part Eduard. I think you accomplished your goal of creating a unique and mischievous composition :-) Fairies it was!
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drakonis said 2375 days ago (June 11th, 2011)
Slow learner...
I am trying to read up on this stuff on my own... maybe it is paying off a little! I appreciate you peeking into the forest to see what we're up to in here, John, thank you for listening! Really enjoyed your latest with Carl & Steve too!
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2-STAGE-2 said 2370 days ago (June 16th, 2011)
Sophisticated elegance
gezz I need to explore more,,,,I enjoy the arrangement here! I'll be back. Thanks. T
drakonis said 2370 days ago (June 16th, 2011)
If you think Macjams is big... try the world!
Hi Terry, there's so much good stuff to listen to around here, I can't keep up either. Glad you liked it!

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Garni said 2364 days ago (June 22nd, 2011)
Black Forest
I am listening to something quite amazing here! The highest of accolades to you mate Everything here sits so wonderful together and it is giving me an enchanted journey into a land you have painted so vividly with your lush soundscape. Awesome!

G-)
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drakonis said 2364 days ago (June 22nd, 2011)
aural paintbrushes
hey Gerald, thank you for stopping in... I love painting pictures with music, and I'm delighted you like what you hear and that it takes you on a journey, perfect! And thank you for your deliciously dark musical journeys too, I love your stuff too!
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FEEL said 2362 days ago (June 24th, 2011)
Music
that my dad would have loved to hear. I wish he were still here, I think he would have liked this MJ thing... you create classical so well. Reminds me of a lazy Sunday. Thanks for sharing.
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drakonis said 2362 days ago (June 24th, 2011)
Mine too...
My dad really fostered my interest in all kinds of music, not just classical... little bits of our dads are helping us play our own music right now, John. Thank you for listening, here's wishing you a great lazy Sunday afternoon!
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Lightman- said 2359 days ago (June 28th, 2011)
Nice
It's good to hear your music... This is peaceful, i like it a lot... Many good moments in this song...
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drakonis said 2358 days ago (June 28th, 2011)
Back in the forest
Welcome back Jakob, and it is a wonderful surprise to see you again and have you visit my music, thank you. A little peace in this hectic world is a good thing, glad I could offer you some.
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Philip18 said 2344 days ago (July 13th, 2011)
Extraordinary talent
I love the way this develops - delightful tune and the interplay between the instruments is great. Beautifully recorded and mixed. Much enjoyed!
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drakonis said 2343 days ago (July 13th, 2011)
grateful
Hey, it is worth the time when I get such a nice listen and comment, thank you! I might even be able to consider this "finished" after all these years of tweaking it! I enjoyed weaving the instruments together like that, so to have you notice gives me a big smile, thanks for stopping in on my latest!
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lonmore said 2344 days ago (July 13th, 2011)
Never Before
Hi Eduard,

I've never heard or seen fairies dancing before, until now. Totally cool! What a talent, a musical raconteur!
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drakonis said 2343 days ago (July 13th, 2011)
Welcome to my imagination...
Thank you for delving into the glen... I've always loved listening to music that tells stories, so I guess it was natural that when I finally got around to trying to write my own music (starting in my 40s) that I'd try to tell stories of my own. Glad to know the magic is working! And glad to hear you posting your music here too!
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Loob said 2334 days ago (July 22nd, 2011)
Love it!
flute, cello, pizzicatto... oboe... Very good! Well done!


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drakonis said 2334 days ago (July 22nd, 2011)
Tickles your experienced fancy?
Excellent, I am quite honored and flattered to have you stop in and like what you hear, Freddy... I am in awe of your performances and mixes and collaborative energy... yay!
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Hickling_Stan said 2330 days ago (July 26th, 2011)
Different
to what I often here at MJ. Really enjoyed this.
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drakonis said 2330 days ago (July 26th, 2011)
viva la difference...
I'm glad to have you listen and enjoy something a little bit different, then! Off to listen to your latest in the rain now.
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Silky5 said 2324 days ago (August 1st, 2011)
Wowzers
Fantastigo. Choice instrumentation and arrangement. The variation is good and sonically sounds good. Well done this does conjour images in ones mind. Well done ;-)
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drakonis said 2324 days ago (August 1st, 2011)
Wowzers back
Hi Paul, what a delightfully grand chunk of feedback, thank you! If *you* think the instrumention choices are good and I'm successfully injecting images into your brain, then I'm on the right track... that's exciting news. I've been away from MJ for a while but will return the favor soon, I am looking forward to your finished angelic adventure.
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Grifion said 2322 days ago (August 4th, 2011)
Awesome
Great work, my friend. I see the magical creatures dancing.

Nice work! :)
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drakonis said 2321 days ago (August 4th, 2011)
More dancing
Very good to see you again, and thank you for listening to my latest piece. I hope to hear some new music from you too.
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Slashh! said 2321 days ago (August 4th, 2011)
If I were a real grown-up...
...this is the kind of stuff I would do. Very cool.
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drakonis said 2321 days ago (August 4th, 2011)
HEY!
Who you callin' grown-up? :-) Although this has taken a long time to write, it has been more fun than work, and having you listen and enjoy it makes it even more fun, so thank YOU!
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SomeMadGirl said 2297 days ago (August 29th, 2011)
Wow!
This is so wonderful! It’s one thing to create a comprehensive sound using drumbeat loops and pads and such, but another thing completely to think through each section of an orchestral piece and weave them all together so skillfully. It’s like writing multiple songs in one. You never cease to amaze! I saw your note about being absent for a while. All my good vibes are heading your way.
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drakonis said 2296 days ago (August 30th, 2011)
threaded themes
This has been strangely satisfying to work on over the years... maybe partly because it is complicated, and is finally coming together the way I want it to. Ooh! A new one from you! I'm off to listen!
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papag said 2294 days ago (August 31st, 2011)
Stepped into the Black Forest
The orchestration is wonderful in this piece. I like the dynamics you have built in too. I had many visualizations from this piece. Good job

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drakonis said 2294 days ago (August 31st, 2011)
The first one is free...
But hopefully I will get a chance to revisit this and do a little more to it, and get it performed live... that would be fun! Glad this got the visions dancing in your mind, I'm doing *something* right then!
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richard13 said 2267 days ago (September 28th, 2011)
Nothing faux about it
A beautiful, exotic, and warm off-kilter invite to (somewhat) uncontrolled body movement.
I do hope you can get this performed: it would be a huge thrill, I'm sure.
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drakonis said 2266 days ago (September 28th, 2011)
1,2,3,faux
Well, the score is pretty much complete and ready now, after years of work. Now comes the hard work... finding a place that would be interested in playing it. I do have some local leads, hopefully I can get some time to pursue them... and my video camera will get a ticket to the performance too, I'll be sure! Thank you for listening and prodding me forward! I really enjoyed you canoning into your kettle drums, BTW. :-)
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Gato said 2204 days ago (November 29th, 2011)
Very exiting picture you have painted here
I love the way the clarinet and flutes contrast each other as well as the string melodies. It seems as though each instrument represents a member or members of a nocturnal brigade of the forest. I can see them dancing and playing in this moonlit enchanted glade. Do you know of The Carnival of the animals? Peter and the Wolf? Two of my favourites to be sure. I really like what you've done here sir.Well done indeed
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drakonis said 2204 days ago (November 30th, 2011)
Oh yes...
Carnival of the Animals and Peter and the Wolf were two staples of my childhood, which probably gave me my interest in programmatic music (music with a story.) Peter and the Wolf DEFINITELY gave me an interest in melody and in the french horn and clarinet, and I decided to play clarinet. If the different instruments sound like they're representing the dancers, then I am achieving my goal here! Thank you for your critical listen.
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Outtaorbit said 2195 days ago (December 8th, 2011)
Wonderful stuff.......
Nice...
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drakonis said 2194 days ago (December 9th, 2011)
what the world needs
more nice wonderful stuff... glad to hear you think this is good!
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abzwork said 2194 days ago (December 9th, 2011)
Forest...
Most excellent is the flava here...an impressive composition full of big smiles my friend...it is hoped that things work out in your favor..:)peace
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drakonis said 2194 days ago (December 9th, 2011)
flava-full journey
Good to see you here, and it was good to hear your music too, Erin. Thank you for wandering into my forest and dropping me a note!
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Roxylee said 2193 days ago (December 10th, 2011)
faux-trot
You never miss the chance to get in a good pun!This is altogether mysterious and hauntingly alluring.You make me feel as if I'm actually there, mesmerized by the dance. This should be the opening tune for Fairy Tale Theatre or something. Your attention to detail is so evident, as in all your pieces.
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drakonis said 2193 days ago (December 10th, 2011)
miss chance
I knew her in high school... but seriously... hey! I've missed you! Where've ya been? Hopefully not lost in the enchanted wood. Yes, I often pay too much attention to detail... no no, not de-furry-tail, de-fairy-tail... oh never mind! :-) Thank you for getting caught up my musical stories, as always. Now it is time for something new from you... we await.
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tokai said 2192 days ago (December 11th, 2011)
Black forests
love em! esp the big one in Germany, or with chocolate on top. Enchanting, this forest has plenty of shafts of brilliant white light, it is a place of tranquillity. Very cool arrangement sir Drak.
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drakonis said 2192 days ago (December 11th, 2011)
just desserts
Hmm... chocolate-covered music, I should patent that! :-) Thanks for dancing over into the light-hearted forest... even when I'm trying to be serious, I still have a little smirk, can't help it. I appreciate the compliment from you!
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BirdmanWayne94 said 2018 days ago (June 2nd, 2012)
Wow...
... this is a piece of history. I remember the very first take of it. Now, with all those modifications, it sounds deeper, richer, and better than ever.

What a masterpiece! "Black Forest Dance" is definitely an MJ classic.
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drakonis said 1972 days ago (July 18th, 2012)
oops missed this
Sorry Yeman, I missed your comment here until just now... thank you so much for listening and comparing. It is very helpful for you to suggest that this is an improvement over the prior one, it means i am learning and heading in the right direction... yay!
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Songwriterz said 1972 days ago (July 18th, 2012)
What can I say?
...other than INCREDIBLE!
What an amazing job .. whole thing is so alive.. I love it. Love Heidi
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drakonis said 1972 days ago (July 18th, 2012)
Living music
Well THAT is quite a compliment, thank you! Because I cannot play an instrument or sing, I write and record all this music on the computer, and often the music feels "mechanical" and does not flow... so I try so hard to overcome this and add dynamics and velocity to make it sound realistic and "alive". If you are hearing that in my music here, that is exciting! Thank you for listening and offering your thoughts, I appreciate it and hope to get back into creating more music again soon!
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