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Description:
This is a remaster / edit of Vickys Song. Thanks to Jim bouchard for the wonderfull guitar work. I hope you all enjoy.
Lyrics:
She's after your heart
Don't let her take it
When it looks like she's running to you
She's in the race for her self
Don't let thoes who've stood by you just fall at the wayside
You'll need us when it falls though
-Chorus-
Women are evil I'll be the first to admit
She's going to break your heart and then run away
I can't assure you I'll catch you when you fall
You couldn't hear me when I said you'd end up that way
I can tell by the look in your eyes
She's already sunk her claws in you
I see I'm too late in coming here
She's done this before
Not just to you
Don't let those who've stood by you just fall at the wayside
You'll need us when it falls though
Hardware:
My studio consists of a Quicksilver G4 with Audiower 8 card, Mackie 12 channel mixer, Alesis QS6, M-audio Keystation, Event 20/20 moniters, and a Supernova. Not sure what all Jim used in the production of this song.
Software:
Garageband, Garageband 2, Logic Audio Pro 7, and Melodyne
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Great... &mdash 02/12/05 - 12:39:40 AM
Great... &mdash 02/12/05 - 01:51:06 PM
Thank Jim Bouchard for those astounding guitar parts. I had links and stuff in
the description...but they didn't work. [ Reply to This ]
great drive &mdash 02/12/05 - 01:36:14 AM
Great full sound and driving rhythm. Really well done all around. I think the music calls for more edge and intensity in your voice though. [ Reply to This ]
genre-bending &mdash 02/12/05 - 02:14:45 AM
a HUGE leap forward from the last version, this one
definitely got the 'pro mix'. the new vocal track is soo
much improved-congrats. i like that you took out some of
the crowded synth effects as well (can't believe i just wrote
that), it comes away with hint of a country feel
as much as i like this, i agree with pgreenstone that the
vocals could use more punch somewhere, probably near
the end. maybe pick up that last verse in a higher pitch &
slightly faster tempo to drive it home?
i stole my copy-sounds even more polished in itunes. who
is jim? [ Reply to This ]
genre-bending &mdash 02/12/05 - 02:02:44 PM
Jim is Jim Bouchard ( http://www.macjams.com/users.php?
mode=profile&uid=792 ) we've worked together on Memories, and Watching
you...I think that's it, you'll have to correct me if I'm forgetting somthing Jim. [ Reply to This ]
This was great... &mdash 02/12/05 - 08:26:01 AM
I really like the way this is put together! Nice harmonies
accentuate the main vocal. Love the driving rhythm of this
song. [ Reply to This ]
cat fights &mdash 02/12/05 - 09:03:11 AM
hmm, a song about one woman undercutting another to get a man. sounds... classic? (or am i reading it wrong? not sure why you use "us" instead of "me" on the last line of the stanza) i'd put this under alternative rock, because of the nature of tyhe sound, which is very CD ready but has an unusual edge to it. you sound like a woman waiting, and i general like your perfectly smooth and most excellent vocals (god knows i can't sing like that), but a moment of showing your own claws vocally might have been just the perfect touch? (if you are waiting for the guy on the rebound, which i'm not sure of anymore. oh well.) very good track! [ Reply to This ]
cat fights &mdash 02/12/05 - 01:54:43 PM
The story goes, I have this friend Vicky who's gaga over this guy Mark who's
totally in love with this girl Jessica....Jessica is basically bad news a
heartbreaker of the worst kind. This song is written from Vickys perspective
warning Mark of who she knows Jessica to be...
Wel..that's the back story on the song. Glad you enjoyed. [ Reply to This ]
satisfying &mdash 02/12/05 - 09:10:27 AM
What I used was my Guild G37 acoustic, Rode NT1000
mic, Yamaha FG412 acoustic 12 string, I think the Tele
Custom electric, Fulldrive 2, Peavey Delta Blues amp,
Behringer mixer, US122 and eMac. The acoustic part is
some sort of weird open tuning that I can't quite
remember. Nice subtle blending of the original guitar
loops with the stuff I recorded in this mix. I love the new
vocals. And you kept my acoustic noodling for the end!
Always fun to work on stuff with you, Leila! Big smiles all
around! [ Reply to This ]
Punchy &mdash 02/12/05 - 09:45:31 AM
I really like the riff here - and the thumping, insistent
drumbeat. You`ve produced it well too.
Its a good groove and a definitely a good base. But, from
that opening the melody left me cold. It feels like its being
pulled along by the beat and groove underneath it and not
adding enough of its own to take it on anywhere new. The
singing quality is great - and it sounds clear in the
production - but maybe its a little too shiny? Or there
isn`t quite enough movement in the melody line? I don`t
know what gets me about it - and obviously lots of people
don`t think it needs any more - so maybe you should
ignore me.
I was a little disappointed that the track ended in a fade
out too - the groove seemed to promise that it might
build to something more climactic.
6-8-5-6
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Rootsy &mdash 02/12/05 - 11:13:28 AM
I love when the electric comes in on the chorus. My gut
says it should be louder and more intense, but it has a
real nice tension.
Great piece. [ Reply to This ]
Much improved &mdash 02/12/05 - 12:41:26 PM
Jim did a great job and your vocals are better also. The
one nitpick I have is that the opening bass roll on the
guitar sounds great but then there is that treble note
which to me is a little jarring and doesn't fit with the rest. [ Reply to This ]
Lovely song &mdash 02/12/05 - 02:23:39 PM
I agree with bronco about the treble note, but other
than that this is fantastic. What a gorgeous voice!
Lovely guitar too. I must go and listen to more of
your stuff. [ Reply to This ]
Great combo &mdash 02/12/05 - 04:39:34 PM
It has the sound of a kind of Modern Rock mentality
coupled together with some southern blues.
Those lyrics really grabbed me... great metaphors and a
good flow. They don't read like lyrics without the music
playing but fit so wonderfully when they are sung. I'm
envious of that :D
Great job! [ Reply to This ]
Wonderful &mdash 02/12/05 - 05:09:45 PM
Love this all. Fabulous vocals from you as always Iseae..
I also like the lyrics and story behind it..
Excellent arrangement and production.
The guitar riffs fit in nicely and give some moving
background that really grabs ones attention.Great work
Jim.
excellent all round
Slimmie
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Women are evil! Hahahahaha.. &mdash 02/13/05 - 02:59:41 AM
Cool tune Iseae...could have used a bit more variation though, there wasn't much of a change between the chorus and the verse.....would also like to hear the main vocal track more in the center...but keep the harmonies spread...
Cool guitar work Jimbo...
Keep jammin'! [ Reply to This ]
Women are evil! Hahahahaha.. &mdash 02/13/05 - 10:34:49 PM
thanks ronnie!
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"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."-- Albert Einstein [ Reply to This ]
I like this song very much... &mdash 02/13/05 - 01:43:10 PM
If I may offer some "respectful" criticism...
There seems to be too much time between the first verse
and the chorus. Perhaps that could be tightened up.
Also, not ALL women are evil. Some are...but usually they
have a good reason. Maybe this particular woman was
hurt, so she takes it out on all of the men she meets. A
little characterization in the song will help bring "the
truth" out for us.
That aside, I really like this song. I will now click the "add
to favorites" button!
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layers and layers &mdash 02/13/05 - 09:27:43 PM
The guitar is really rich, here...I like it a lot, but it
could have been turned down just a tad. The vocals
were a little in danger of being absorbed. Hmmm...
reading some of the posts above and maybe a little
more intensity in the vocals would work as well... I
agree. Overall nice tune, though. [ Reply to This ]
Excellent &mdash 02/14/05 - 03:31:19 AM
This rocks. The chorus is really interesting - well put
together. How did you do the drums? They sound
awesome. The vocals are crystal clear, just how I wish I
could get mine to sound. [ Reply to This ]
Excellent &mdash 02/14/05 - 04:45:41 AM
The drums are a combination of Jims pencil tool, Apple Loops and a beefy
kick drum layered over top. Normal did all the production on the Drums, but
I think he used a comperssor/limiter and EQ.
My not so secret secret for clear vocals, place the mic vertically as opposed to
horizontally. I don't know why this works, but singing under the mic gives
the sound more clarity and less of a nasal sound. [ Reply to This ]
By the way... &mdash 02/14/05 - 03:32:51 AM
I was too hasty in submitting my last comment. I meant
to say: Great guitars Jim! [ Reply to This ]
By the way... &mdash 02/14/05 - 08:47:36 AM
Thanks for the compliments on the guitars. Some of the guitars are standard GB loops, I should admit, but the electric in the chorus is something I'm fairly proud of playing. And there's a couple acoustic parts that get blended in really well in the mix. The annoying high note on the acoustic at the beginning is something I'm fully responsible for, but hey, I liked it when I recorded it. I was going for a Leo Kottke in-your-face feel, but I lack the chops these days for that kind of muscular acoustic playing.
The drum track I added was actually not penciled but various Drums On Demand loops. I wish I could pencil like that! I love Drums on Demand.
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"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."-- Albert Einstein [ Reply to This ]
Refreshing Contrast &mdash 02/15/05 - 02:53:21 PM
Smooth voice overtop that southern rock. Balanced
mix...cool chord progressions. Would love to hear that
lead guitar jacked! Heh, that's just me though. Very well
written, produced and executed.
Sweet track! [ Reply to This ]
Fabulous &mdash 02/16/05 - 03:21:42 AM
This is an excellent song, fantastic guitar playing and a
really excellent vocal performance. I'm a fan! Well done! [ Reply to This ]
Of a mixed mind about this &mdash 02/16/05 - 11:18:15 AM
Well I enjoyed it for sure! I think the music is great, and
and the vocalist sounds quite nice, but I'm not 100% on
the actual lyrics. Seems like there are ryhmes that don't
resolve and a few awkward phrasings. That said, that
could totally be taken as a stylistic choice, but I say it
could be upgraded to total popability. Would love to hear
a revision along those lines. [ Reply to This ]
rich and full &mdash 02/16/05 - 11:42:17 AM
The very thick and rich texture throughout this tune is
almost overwhelming. It's like eating something intensely,
concentratingly sweet, or breathing in a very heady,
strong spice.
I do like the layering of the various guitars and
combination of loops (very well done!) but it's almost too
busy because the thick texture doesn't vary throughout
the song. I think it would have been much more effective
had it been alternated with sections of thinner texture,
with less going on.
The vocals seem a bit low-key and don't quite balance the
complex background accompaniment, or the intense
lyrics. It might have been good to kick the vocals up a
notch, in intensity of feeling and delivery. Either that or
thin out the accompaniment.
Thanks for sharing the "back story" on this tune. The
lyrics are very good! [ Reply to This ]
Catch my breath &mdash 02/17/05 - 11:42:51 AM
Yeah, that's tasty guitar. The acoustic blues is a really fun riff and the section with the electric represents a terrific choice of combining tones. The playing is spot on! Really nice choices on the drum track as well.
You have a great sense for producing vocals. The treatment here reminds me of some of the tactics employed with much success by Cheryl Crow.
I think this is a killer song. The one trick I might suggest is to create a pause in there somewhere. Something that drops the drums entirely and allows a single chord to ring. The rhythm is pretty consistent throughout and a four beat breath before or after a chorus will let the rhythm hit the listener fresh again before the final stretch. [ Reply to This ]
Nicely Done &mdash 02/20/05 - 05:04:30 AM
Totally like &mdash 02/26/05 - 06:07:56 AM
Good tune &mdash 03/06/05 - 06:17:34 PM
Jim's guitar work is immaculate and your vocal work is
quite strong. Similar theme/feel to Fleetwood Mac's "Gold
Dust Woman" - actually sounds a bit more production
wise like earlier Fleetwood stuff. Good stuff. [ Reply to This ]
Another good one. &mdash 11/01/05 - 01:18:41 PM
Mystery! &mdash 12/19/05 - 07:43:58 PM
I love following the Mystery MacJammer links - because you stumble upon wonderful pieces like this. Great groove, great lyrics, awesome voice - sweet guitar. Can we have more please? I'd love to colloborate with you on some tunes! [ Reply to This ]
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great.
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