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DWL
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What keys mean (perhaps)
Saturday, November 10 2018 @ 11:31 AM CST

I remember coming across this many years ago and I was reminded of it today.

An interesting read!

https://www.wmich.edu/mus-theo/courses/keys.html


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Re:What keys mean (perhaps)
Sunday, November 11 2018 @ 06:32 PM CST

https://www.reddit.com/r/classicalmusic/comments/grjwa/what_difference_does_the_key_make/

One of the interesting comments is:
Everybody is ignoring the one thing that ACTUALLY makes the keys unique and could very well substantiate the "feeling" of each key:   ratios.   In equal temperament, none of the keys has the same ratios of resonance between scale degrees, since Pythagorean ratios had to be discarded to make every key palatable.   So every key, regardless of A440 or another base, has its own microtonalities, which could very well explain the differing senses of tension in each key.
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Re:What keys mean (perhaps)
Tuesday, November 13 2018 @ 10:22 AM CST

Quote by: MikeRobinson
https://www.reddit.com/r/classicalmusic/comments/grjwa/what_difference_does_the_key_make/

One of the interesting comments is:
Everybody is ignoring the one thing that ACTUALLY makes the keys unique and could very well substantiate the "feeling" of each key:   ratios.   In equal temperament, none of the keys has the same ratios of resonance between scale degrees, since Pythagorean ratios had to be discarded to make every key palatable.   So every key, regardless of A440 or another base, has its own microtonalities, which could very well explain the differing senses of tension in each key.



Yes, well spotted, that was the reason for the "perhaps"!

I did find it interesting though.


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Re:What keys mean (perhaps)
Tuesday, November 13 2018 @ 05:07 PM CST

nevermind
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Re:What keys mean (perhaps)
Tuesday, November 13 2018 @ 05:10 PM CST

nevermind
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Re:What keys mean (perhaps)
Tuesday, November 13 2018 @ 05:15 PM CST

nevermind
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Re:What keys mean (perhaps)
Wednesday, November 14 2018 @ 10:41 AM CST


It's a treatise from 1806.

I found it fascinating how times change and from what I've read people put a lot of store in ideas like this and composed according to the kind of concepts expressed.

We tend to bring it down to minor and major these days but I found it fascinating to read and still think that some keys do tend to drive you off in a different direction.

If you have poetry in your soul, how can you not be moved by Db major, "A leering key, degenerating into grief and rapture" ? Smile

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Re:What keys mean (perhaps)
Wednesday, November 14 2018 @ 11:00 AM CST

my apologies.
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Re:What keys mean (perhaps)
Wednesday, November 14 2018 @ 11:00 AM CST

Quote by: SmokeyVW
my apologies.



None needed Smile

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Re:What keys mean (perhaps)
Wednesday, November 14 2018 @ 01:13 PM CST

Actually, "this sort of thing" is – to me – one of the most interesting aspects of the “historical 'musical arts.'”

Throughout musical history, “pragmatic practitioners of the musical arts,” dependent though they might have been upon the patronage of this-or-that white-wigged scion of hereditary nobility, were always interested in the mathematics behind music ... whether they lived in the age of “equal temperament” or not.