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Saturnine w/ktb


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ktb

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A song by The Orbiting (illuminati & ledebutant)

This is more Matt's mix than mine. He was kind enough to throw me a special bed to play with. I only added a bass pedal/pad synth, some noodling piano, drums and a solo at the end.

Many thanks to The Orbiting for the opportuniy to collaborate.
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Uploaded: Dec 20, 2006 - 09:56:31 AM
Last Updated: Dec 20, 2006 - 09:56:31 AM Last Played: May 10, 2018 - 09:27:31 AM
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illuminati said 4572 days ago (December 20th, 2006)
Don't let KTB fool you,
this remix succeeds by his efforts. I love the depth his work adds to the song. It has some serious heft now. Thanks for adding your touches to our song and I had fun working with you on this (sorry about all the delays!)
ktb said 4571 days ago (December 20th, 2006)
my favorite
Matt, I remember you mentioning Thomas Dolby a while back (I think you mentioned seeing him live).You have a similar ability to mix an amazing assortment of instrumentation without making it crowded. There's still stuff I hear that seems new to me after a kazzilion listens. The backward guitars, fluttering strings and a thousand other cool cameo's.
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kevmikwa said 4572 days ago (December 20th, 2006)
Back in the day
Back in the day (OK, it was 4 frickin' months ago), after listening to the original version of Saturnine, I posted a comment saying how much I wanted to try an alternate drum take for the last 50 seconds of the song (for giggles). Life intervened (as it has alot lately) and I never got my chance.

I gotta say, the drum flavor you've got here is so perfect. It's what I would have strived for (and probably not acheived anyway) had I taken a swing. The pace and groove is spot on, and really takes the song to a new place. I could rave about the great solo at the end, the most excellent "noodling piano" (your words) and the spacey soundscape that suits the mood so well, but I'm not gonna. The drums are what hit me the most, and they're awesome. Bravo!
ktb said 4571 days ago (December 20th, 2006)
wow
Mike, you are too kind! I really appreciate you making such a thoughtful comment. The drums sounds came from a Roland TD7 midi drum controller. Of any part I added, i was most concerned about the drums and how they sync'd. Hearing from you and having your vote of confidence, really made my day!
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ledebutant said 4572 days ago (December 20th, 2006)
Fibber!
I'm with Matt. I heard early mixes of this version and your noodling, drums, solo, bass/pedal and pad add the special something to this take on Saturnine. This is one of my favorite remixes of the song, John and I hope you're very proud of what you brought out in the original music and vocals

I agree with kev that the drums are really very cool and I do some serious grooving in the new outro, so though I already married the old outro, I'm going to have to marry this one, too (don't tell the Feds.) ;-)

Thank you so much for your hard work on this!
ktb said 4571 days ago (December 20th, 2006)
no fib
Lisa, thanks for letting me tinker with it. This is my first MJ collab with singing and I couldn't be more thrilled with the outcome. Now when someone asks me "wass up" musically I play them this. Thats when they ask me who's singing! "She sounds awesome!" I can only agree. The backing vocals in particular are as nuanced and intriguing as anything I've heard
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Bubowski said 4572 days ago (December 20th, 2006)
A Beautiful Soundscape
This is an incredible version of this now-venerable song. Subtle and dramatic changes...it's really great!
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ktb said 4571 days ago (December 20th, 2006)
soundscape
Graham, thanks for the good words. Matt sent me a killer mix to start so I was more than half way home when I started. The bass pedal/pad sound came from a Triton Extreme patch. One of those patchs where you hit a single note and let it sustain for a couple of days with out it losing steam.
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Bubowski said 4571 days ago (December 20th, 2006)
Woah...Hardware!
A Hardware synth? How retro of you! ;-)

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Leon said 4572 days ago (December 20th, 2006)
Wow...
Of all the awesome versions of Saturnine that I have listened to so far, i think this one has the most basic appeal for me. It does not obscure the melody and actually enhances it. Lisa's voice becomes a main feature here rather than just an ornament, and it is so lovely. The atmosphere in this song is more musical and ethereal, but that is not to say that I did not appreciate the other versions. They were all wonderful in their own way and created different themes and moods. This one didn't take long to seep into my muscial brain though. It kinda just sucked me in right away, and carried me way.
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ktb said 4571 days ago (December 20th, 2006)
wow
Leon, I tried not to step too hard on all the great tracks that were already there. I thought of what I could add in terms of accents and fill. There was a wonderful ambient quality to the original piece, I just wanted to swim in that.
I wanted to be the table lamp that when turned on casts a really cool glow in the room.
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jiguma said 4571 days ago (December 20th, 2006)
I love this song ......
.... all the versions of it! There is to me a hint of "Life in a Northern Town" by Dream Academy in Lisa's vox, the chord structures and Matt's original bed - I also hear what you mean by the Thomas Dolby influence John.. Despite my enjoyment of all the Saturnine versions, this for me is the ultimate - the synth noodling at the end really got me in, and as Matt said, the extra depth that you've given this is just brilliant. I agree with Mike about the drums - they lift the song without taking over. I'm sure I agree with something Lisa said too : )
No wonder you use this to humour the "wassupers" John!
Excellent!
Peace,
Neil
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ktb said 4571 days ago (December 21st, 2006)
dream academy
Neil, that reference definitely resonates with me. I love playing this for my musician friends. Thanks for stopping by, your comments are always thoughtful..enjoy the holidays
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Macaudion said 4571 days ago (December 20th, 2006)
Oh my...
I thought that I might seem like the anti-christ if I posted a tune that wasn't a x-mas tune, but if this is the work of the anti-christ, I don't mind working w/ the devil...

Beautiful, guys! This is just Beautiful! Downloading this really makes me feel like I'm really gettng away with something... Way too good to be free. So nicely arreanged and produced with such grand lushness.

It's amazing how all of the different versions of this have just been so absoulutely, amazing. And certainly, Lisa's warm, rich and very sensual presentation of this was something to match...

But you guys did nothing but compliment what you had to start with. Well... - you did more than 'just compliment it' - you breathed a STUNNING new life into it by way of your very, very impressive talents.

It just amazes me that this is the sort of work that keeps getting produced on this site.

Bow til you can't cause the degree of pure goodness on this one can do nothing but craddle w/ sweetness, the hearts and souls of many until beyond the end of known time...

Congrads! D


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Macaudion said 4571 days ago (December 21st, 2006)
Well...
Cap, underline and put in bold letters, each and every one of the words that I've shared above - When I had written that, I was listening to this on a itty bitty, teeny weeny computer speaker and still, the beauty of your work came through -- And now, I'm at home and on my system and I gotta tell you guys, I'm in a trance-like state of pure awe... Words only diminish what you've done here... This is truly a beautiful work of art.

D
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ktb said 4571 days ago (December 21st, 2006)
words
Dion, you're killin me with your praise. thank you! I'm glad you took the second listen with the better speakers. There's so much happening, headphones or a good set of speakers really helps bring out all the nuance.

be well John
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Sista Mac said 4571 days ago (December 20th, 2006)
Oooooo!
I really like this. Its so beautiful! Downloaded!
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ktb said 4571 days ago (December 21st, 2006)
ooooh
Sista mac, I'm glad you liked it, thx for commenting
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racerat said 4571 days ago (December 21st, 2006)
Lush
Some really great movements here. The acoustic guitar sound is perfect. The pads and piano when the drums arrive are lush and warm. Mysterious and enveloping. Nice track.
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ktb said 4571 days ago (December 21st, 2006)
lush
Philip, I think thats the best operative adjective. Matt Smith & Lisa Purdy provided me with an amazing bed to work with.
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Feter said 4571 days ago (December 21st, 2006)
charming !!!
what a superb work ..the back grounds so
perfect ..spacy and spheric ..the singin
is more than charming ...so cool !!
the piano noodling magical as always ..!
thnx for sharin it here with us !!
well done !!
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ktb said 4571 days ago (December 21st, 2006)
charming
Feter, always a pleasure to hear from you! I hope you have a great holiday.

be safe, John
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said 4571 days ago (December 21st, 2006)
nice
It's time to put the Saturnine EP out!


ktb said 4571 days ago (December 21st, 2006)
ep
Brandon, thats a capital idea! maybe we can shoot the video at the same time? :-)
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jiguma said 4570 days ago (December 21st, 2006)
More like .....
..... the double CD by now I think : )
Neil

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said 4570 days ago (December 21st, 2006)
Yeah!
We can release it with the Ember EP.
Maybe Macjams will put it out.


perceptualvortex said 4570 days ago (December 21st, 2006)
Awesome
Great additions... I love those keys you've added at the end especially. Excellent job building on this great song, John.
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ktb said 4570 days ago (December 21st, 2006)
keys at end
thx David, I took some time tweaking the sound for the solo at the end. So it brings me great joy to have you compliment that. I still say the custom bed Matt gave me put me 90% there.
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DWL said 4570 days ago (December 22nd, 2006)
Nice build
- a very atmospheric song. Tremendous skill in the arrangement and gradual layering and textural changes. Vocals are nicely understated and the balance is excellent.

Kudos to all involved :)

Cheers

Dick
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ktb said 4569 days ago (December 22nd, 2006)
atmospheric
Dick, thanks for listening. I tried not to step too hard at any point. Especially appreciate your comment re; layering and textural changes
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Scott Carmichael said 4569 days ago (December 22nd, 2006)
Before I comment
I'm just sitting here drinking the ending in... I could loop that ending and swim in it... the fanfare quality calls to me from the very deep...

Ok now for the rest of this... you are sitting in the producer chair on this, so I'm happy to say that this doesn't have your thumbprint all over it.... which means good producer chops on your part... the song is really about Lisa's voice... and you have gone about framing her perfectly

I have to laugh when people bring me a demo, all exited and my response is "Who produced this? a guitar player right?" hey how'd you know... and it's obvious that the guy never considered the song, just his guitar...

YOU obviously know that... the song is everything

exellent John
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ktb said 4568 days ago (December 23rd, 2006)
producers chair
Scott, you make me blush. I love to mix stuff. This was a challenge in the sense that there was so much cool stuff already going on. Matt (illuminati) gave me a ready to wear mix with he and Lisa already together. So i was ahead from the start :-) Then I added some tracks from there. I'm am honored that people such as yourself are generous with their ear, and take the time to comment.
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Reinholt56 said 4569 days ago (December 23rd, 2006)
I didn't know what to expect but.....
I'm very pleasantly surprised. I really enjoyed listening to this piece.

I'm gonna havta getta bigga ipod.

All the best for Chrimbo and the New Year.

R.
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ktb said 4568 days ago (December 23rd, 2006)
what to expect
Reinholt56, if there was one reaction I could hope to achieve it would be to make some music, that wasn't expected. To have someone click on a track for the very reason to explore, and to hear something unexpected (which hopefully they'll like :-) Thx for leaving a comment!
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echoroom said 4568 days ago (December 24th, 2006)
Genre shifting
Just stunning. I frankly don't know how you can achieve a mix, and soundscape, like this (I'm currently mixing a track and this makes me want to pack it in!). Despite being a slow, sad track, you've given this tremendous energy, but still retained all the emotion in Lisa's vocal. Structurally, this is awesome - nothing obvious, but subtle changes that keep your attention all the way through.

I admire your work so much ... don't know what else to say, other than, teach me!

Steve
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ktb said 4567 days ago (December 24th, 2006)
subtle
Steve, the comment that it keeps your attention all the way thru makes me happy. I can't say enuf good things about both Matt & Lisa's original track and I thank them profusely for letting me tinker with additions.
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Mcboy said 4568 days ago (December 24th, 2006)
kool....
nice additions.....
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ktb said 4567 days ago (December 24th, 2006)
thanks
hey man, thx, appreciate the listen
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Drew Kopr said 4568 days ago (December 24th, 2006)
Heavy!
What a great, glorious tune. Everyone has already said everything above, so I will simply agree with all of the accolades and add that Lisa has the sexiest, sweetest natural tone in this tune that it almost makes me wet my pants.
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ktb said 4567 days ago (December 24th, 2006)
heavy
which I would attribute to Matt's original mix he supplied me (my jumping off point) with Lisa's transcendental (actual word?) voice adding that "x" factor.
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OneManBand said 4567 days ago (December 24th, 2006)
nice
great, love the strings

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ktb said 4565 days ago (December 27th, 2006)
strings
OMB, welcome to MJ. Thx for listening
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composerclark said 4565 days ago (December 26th, 2006)
Sonic touches
Great; really love it. Filled with cool sonic touches. Congrats to all involved.
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ktb said 4565 days ago (December 27th, 2006)
sonics
Clark, always great to hear from you! happy MJ anniversary to ya
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Norman Goodman said 4534 days ago (January 26th, 2007)
Very Lush instrumentation
Excellent instrumentation and arrangement. The songs melody is very well written and the piece flows exceptionally well. Vocals were very good and i will have to look into more of the singers posts. Once I got past my enamourment with the mix I was able to enjoy the song for its impressive creativity, performances and structure.
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said 4528 days ago (February 2nd, 2007)
Wow
Very impressed by the depth and clarity of the sounds here. The vocals are so, so nice and everything is arranged so perfectly

Well done....

bmc
falzaabi said 4506 days ago (February 23rd, 2007)
cool
cool nice and slow
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kipak said 4497 days ago (March 5th, 2007)
Brilliant
I would buy this CD. Creative but definitely polished. This makes me eager to listen to the rest of your work.
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Slashh! said 4484 days ago (March 17th, 2007)
Nothing left to say...
...Very well done indeed.
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guitapick said 4469 days ago (April 2nd, 2007)
Wow...
...
Hmmmm....
...beautiful tune/well performed and produced...
...ledebutant's voice is to die for...
Nice "noodling". You sketch quite well...
;-)
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ktb said 4468 days ago (April 2nd, 2007)
lisa's voice
YES! Ledeb's vocals are stellar. A lot of the credit for the blend goes to Matt (illuminati). Probably my fav Mj track. I would do this all day long, if someone let me.
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michael2 said 4458 days ago (April 13th, 2007)
you're good
really inventive mix. i always feel like that is my weak area, and it's inspiring to hear others do a nice job. all of your sounds are really nice and help the song along. are you using loops and editing them, or maybe some other wizardry? nice job.
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ktb said 4458 days ago (April 13th, 2007)
wizardry via Midi
Michael, thx for the nice comment. The mix is a true collab amongst Ledeb, illuminati, and myself. I recorded all my parts (bass pedal, piano, drums and solo) via MIDI. This allowed me to clean up my clams and choose patches after the fact to see what would sound best.
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paralax said 4449 days ago (April 22nd, 2007)
awesome
the build up on this song is great.phenominal keys as usual,the vocals fit this well.very relaxing as if I'm on the beach listening to the ocean tide coming in and this is playing.very good

Terry
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ktb said 4448 days ago (April 22nd, 2007)
my favorite
I think this is my favorite. I really enjoy Lisa's vocal stylings, and Matt (illuminati) put together one of the coolest beds I ever had the honor of working on
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Rebsie said 4407 days ago (June 2nd, 2007)

Wow, this is pretty stunning. What an amazing collection of sounds, and so balanced ... weaving in and out and through each other like waves in the sea. This is probably my favourite of all Lisa's vocal performances that I've heard ... she sounds so comfortably in her element. The richness of the instrumentation is a delight.
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ktb said 4407 days ago (June 2nd, 2007)
notes
Rebsie, thanks for stoppin by and listening. This tune was a great opportunity to play with texture. Matt & Lisa had already recorded a killer tune so it fell together rather quickly.
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lavalamp said 4406 days ago (June 4th, 2007)
Hey KTB
Love the beginning, very fitting. I must say I'm really impressed with the vocals. My only gripe is that I wouldn't classify it as alternative rock.
But, that's just a little thing.
I think it's a very beautiful song.
Well-done, glad I got to hear this one.
Thanks
LL
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ktb said 4406 days ago (June 4th, 2007)
alt rock
LL, glad you swung by and dug the tune. When it came to the classification I went with what Ledeb and Illuminati originally had posted it as. Since it was their tune and I was just sitting in so to speak :-) I'd be hard pressed to come up with my own anyway :-) New age, alt pop, soundscape?
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said 4129 days ago (March 6th, 2008)
I want to say
Thank you for your comment on my song. Man, I remember this song from way back, what you did with it is brilliant, this is my favorite mix BY FAR. I enjoy your style a lot =)
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