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When The Future Comes (w/ Twon, Alimar, Audiocracy)

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This is the second completed song from our progressive rock collaborative: AUDIOCRACY. The other demo tracks include: Revolution's Son and Speak Truth To Power; and one from the actually album: Puzzle City. There are 5 more songs written to complete the first album, but none of the others are completed recordings yet. It has proved to be a more daunting task to get 5-6 guys spread around the country to play. Too much life happens in between takes. (For example: My father's health decline and my need to care for him daily; Twon's electrocuted hand and slow recovery; Alimar's eyes, etc; Rob's mother died... the list goes on.)

WHEN THE FUTURE COMES is sort of a distopian epic. The music is triumphant, the words skeptical and even tragic. (At least, post-tragic.) When thinking about the future, as a very upbeat fellow, I have a hard time not being hopeful, so I placed myself after an apocalypse and this is what came out.

On this track:
Tobin: vocals; keys; backward drum programming, add'l percussion
Twøn: vocals; bass; ac gtr
Bob Piper: guitars
Rob Thurman: drums
Al Ligammari: engineering
Thanks, Al and friends, for all their great additions. This project is totally inspiring me.

This track has since been remastered and appears on my 2008 release, AUDIOCDRACY: Revolution's Son, available through CDBaby. Reviews are available on the MJ BLOG: Member CD Reviews.

Other tracks shared from Audiocracy:
Revolution's Son
Puzzle City
Speak Truth To Power
Gethsemane Again
When The Future Comes
Date To Sing
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There are hundreds, maybe thousands now
walking over the hill
Past the wreckage, with there heads unbowed
they'd forgotten the thrill

Always wanted to change the world
now its fallen away
Can't we take it and make it work,
this future day?

When the future comes
there was silver in the air
All the dreams secumb
whistling like a dare
When the future falls
ladders slide like rain
What we always imagined...
silent rungs, silent ringing
...will follow?

How can we ever see outside the stone and glass
the future that will be beyond our patterned past?
How can we ever know a future we can own,
a future we won't break to pieces?
of falling shadows...

There are thousand, maybe millions now
coming over the hill
Past the wreckage of the dreams they've sown
and will cherish still
Mouths to feed and clothes to patch and clean
when will true change begin?
Eyes that feed on all the space and green
of freedom. Freedom.

How can we ever see?
How can we ever know?
How can we ever tell?
How can we ever show?
How can we even find?
Where can we ever go?
(...into a state of mind and meaning
that isn't borrowed?)


You think you tear it down and then
someone builds it up again.
You think you tear it down and someone builds it up.
You think you tear it down
and someone builds it up again.
You think you tear it down and someone builds it up.
And on and on and on and on and on.

Millions and millions more
have come over the hill
Past the wreckage of the dream before
always emptied and filled
Mouths to feed and clothes to patch and clean
when will true change begin?
Eyes that feed on what is unspoken...

How can we ever see? - What do we see?
How can we ever know? - How can we know?
How can we ever tell? - What can you tell me so we can find...
How can we ever show?
How can we even find?
How can we ever go
into a state of mind and meaning
that isn't borrowed?

When the future comes.
When the future comes.
When the future comes.
When the future comes tomorrow, hollow.
To you.
To me.

©2007 Tobin James Mueller
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I used my G4 to record the starting music bed and all vocals.
Bob used an M-Audio 410 for his guitars... all effects were from his pedals.
Rob recorded his drums using ProTools through a 18 track board.
Alimar used his equipment (GB 3) to record all electric guitars and live drums. After processing all that, he then sent his separate tracks which I messed with a bit and added in. The final mix. done 2 years after the first stages of recording, ended up on my newer G5.

I used several modules: Korg's Wavestation AD for all the granular sequenced sounds; Emu's Morpheus for stranger synth sounds; NI's Massive for the organ and synth leads.

DP; GB; ProTools
NI's Massive
perceptualvortex said 4639 days ago (February 1st, 2007)
Headphones and volume: check
What to even say? The production, musicianship, concept and writing are all stunning. Musical experiences like this don't present themselves every day, and I just feel like I hit the jackpot when I find something this good. Bravo!
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said 4639 days ago (February 1st, 2007)
I felt this song should be included in the MacJams 'Drumoff'.

Great job by all involved!

TobinMueller said 4638 days ago (February 2nd, 2007)
Another enjoyable collab
One of the joys Macjams has brought to my life is you, Alimar. Thanks for sharing some of your upper state friends. As we put the finishing touches on these songs, I think we are truly on to something. Thanks for helping to make a lifelong ambition (playing prog with real prog players) a reality. Long live AUDIOCRACY!
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Peter Greenstone said 4639 days ago (February 1st, 2007)
Wow! That was huge! Just tremendous in its scope and arrangement. The layering of vocals is intense. So many textures and patterns all finding their place without fighting each other. Hard for me to critique this as there is just so much there to take in. Not that there isn't surely something that could be done here and there to improve but it's in that fine detail tweaking that I don't think I could articulate here and this sounds really amazing.
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TobinMueller said 4638 days ago (February 2nd, 2007)
Little things
As a non-engineer, tackling this large of a track is less daunting than you think, since I never realize how complex it will be until too late. Like Frankenstein's Creature, there is always one more thing to add on, to fix, to stitch in. I tackle one thing at a time and look up to see I've just sat in front of the computer for 6 hours and haven't had breakfast yet. After spending over 40 hours on this track, I tell myself I gotta start writing shorter tunes! Thanks for your enthusiastic ears, you patience, and for letting the little things (that will remain unfixed, since this is the final version!) not bother you.
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futzpucker said 4639 days ago (February 1st, 2007)
Huge impact
This is a remarkable achievement on many levels. Listening is a theatric experience - it's almost visual, it's so strong. Obviously a great deal of heart was put into the production of this masterpiece by all the participants. To manage all the ideas, the performances, the sounds, the shifts... and to end up with a wonderful, cohesive piece that hits hard and is still very enjoyable is a tremendous accomplishment. Congratulations to everyone.
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TobinMueller said 4638 days ago (February 2nd, 2007)
A theatric experience
When I first conceived this song, it was for a rock opera "Dreamless" that ended up never getting finished or produced. It included a expensive concept of having 4 actors singing (mic'd) from transparent sarcophagi mounted on either side of the proscenium dressed in suits that enabled their actions to be transformed onto a screen (I wanted holograms, actually), since they were playing AI characters (voodoo gods, actually, in the end). It was all to be integrated with human actors on stage. A Sci-Fi rock epic. Budget constraints, and the end of the rock opera age, stopped development. But this song remained, and then morphed, into what we've captured here. I still envision the thing, but now more in film terms, a rock opera movie. Thanks for using your imagination to fill in the spaces.
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twonicus said 4639 days ago (February 1st, 2007)
oh, my jesus!
yeah, loud, in headphones, i almost cried (would have if i wasn't singing, ha)
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TobinMueller said 4638 days ago (February 2nd, 2007)
Father and son
When you listened to the version before the guitar had been added, when I first placed in our vocals and Rob's drumming, I loved how you called from the train ride home and said how honored you were to be a part of this, how sweet that was of you. We've listened to prog our whole life, you and I, and that I am able to make music like this with you is more than an honor; it is fulfillment. I hope this project is just the start of you and I creating music together. There is no one I like working with better than you. Thanks again.
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twonicus said 4639 days ago (February 1st, 2007)
part 2
ok, now i'll comment after listening to the whole song...
incredible. i've heard just about every version of this song and it gets better every time. what a guitar solo, what clean production making snese of the caos. wow wow wow.
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TobinMueller said 4638 days ago (February 2nd, 2007)
Sense of the chaos
Yes, "wow" on all four guitar solos. Bob nailed 'em. But there are also tons of synth like washes and arpeggios and other sounds that he added using cool great guitar-synth sounds. Astoundingly varied textures. I ended up going back in and adding 4 little synth phrases to complement his cool nuggets of musical thought. It gave the piece a wonderful organic feel that, too me, symbolizes the organic nature of the surrounding world and the noise and distraction of the post-tragic chaos. Kudos, Bob!
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jiguma said 4639 days ago (February 1st, 2007)
Volume on 9, 'phones are ON!
Thanks for the headsup Tobin. This sounds so much like Yes at first (a very good thing!). I've just been watching/listening to King Crimson and Gentle Giant DVDs and so am right in the mood for this. How you get your head around all those parts is beyond me - very big sounds at the console end Alimar, and some superb playing all around. An amazing contribution to the site - thanks!!
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ktb said 4639 days ago (February 1st, 2007)
what a great tune. Don't know if your familiar with "Happy the Man" but this has the same passion and musical wanderlust. The vocals are massive. Such a frightening range. Concept is large scale and you guys nailed it. dramatic. bravo is apt

Thanks for the links to the other players.
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TobinMueller said 4638 days ago (February 2nd, 2007)
Happy the Man
I am familiar with their song Ibby It Is from the "After the Storm" compilation. I dig the track. And "The Muse Awakens" which is like prog meets new age jazz. Is there another CD of theirs I should know about? Great musicians. I love that they use sax with their rock stuff. I want to do that with the next Audiocracy project. Alimar's The Lost Records will produce the album, I'm very excited about this coming year.
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Z293 said 4639 days ago (February 1st, 2007)
Great Track
This will fit in nicely with Revolution's Son.
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paddler said 4639 days ago (February 1st, 2007)
reading the lyrics I was instantly reminded of a recent major historical event in u.s which - from what I have understood from conversing with many from across the continent on a certain site known as hipforums has affected the national psyche probably far more than we in uk can comprehend and I am guessing that the vision in this song is one that acknowledges those deeply shared emotions and draws out the positive.But thats only a guess.On a musical note - top notch production and some spacey glittering sounds.I hate drawing comparisons so I wont but I was reminded of little snippetts from the ambient middle section of 'close to the edge' and in feel,steve vai.And - as some parts of yes remind me of steve vai which in turn makes me think of frank zappa then well - its all good.The operatic lines with synthy parts is quite a new sound to me and makes me think this could be part of a musical or stageshow.well done
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TobinMueller said 4638 days ago (February 2nd, 2007)
Post 9/11
I lived in NYC on 9/11/2001. My son was living with me. He worked nonstop at his hotel, I at Ground Zero and tent city relief efforts. I set down some of my recollections and photos in my Journal from the Streets. A life-changer. But it is not hard to find tragedy around the globe as similar inspirations, sadly. But, in retrospect, the time following 9/11 were some of the best days of my life. As for the music, there is also quite a bit of musical theatre in this one, or "rock opera" sensibilities, which is how I envision the piece coming to life, fully, on stage. Thanks for the listen and for letting hope live alongside cynicism.
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Parichayaka said 4639 days ago (February 1st, 2007)
"Look, right across the board...
...eleven, eleven, eleven!" You successfully manage to back up the powerful message of this song with an army of sounds and voices, creating an immensely impressive and satisfying experience. Written almost like a one-song musical, you pack a whole evening worth of emotion and energy into this hymn for a better tomorrow. Wow! Beautiful to see how you use your tremendous experience to go beyond all kinds of common song structures - I love the extended introduction - ethereal, but full of raw energy waiting to burst out! Live instruments, especially the drums merging with the variety of percussive instruments, add an extra dimension to the synth backdrop. An achievement on so many levels! Congratulations.
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TobinMueller said 4638 days ago (February 2nd, 2007)
A one-song musical
What a great read on what I was going for, thanks. After all the work in front of my computer, alone in headphones, it is simply wonderful to hear a reaction like this. Thanks for sharing your enthusiasm. Your stuff has great production and I appreciate your comments a great deal. Production is an outgrowth of story, for me, and I am very glad there was a sweeping, visual element communicated. We all live among ruins, whether or not we can see them. Thanks again for the listen.
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The Fritters said 4639 days ago (February 1st, 2007)
Chills on that line "maybe millions now
coming over the hill" and then more and more... I am just blown away! Sounds so much like Yes, but better, somehow.
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TobinMueller said 4638 days ago (February 2nd, 2007)
Chills on that line
Thanks. I never know if what moves me will move others, since there are so many non-musical reasons why our own music touches us as self-produced composers. I have teared when that part comes up, as the expectations, the music unheard inside my head, and the vision of the possible all collide in a moment of manifestation. Thanks for sharing that reaction. Like Fritters, I never would have discovered most of these collaborators were it not for Macjams. Long live MJ!
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Scott Carmichael said 4639 days ago (February 1st, 2007)
The music closest to my heart
I've often wanted to venture into this realm... It is by far the most moving stuff to me... You've already heard the Yes comparisons... I think this is a huge compliment, for my ears, Yes is on a whole other level, and this peice certainly belongs in that company... this is most remenicient of "Talk"...

Al... Exellent mix... the guitars were perfect... I sat wondering how I would have approached it, Rob you nailed it... and I have to say Tobin the composition is massive... you're something else... of all the very high quality and diverse genres that you so authentically post... this shines... and it's my favorite of your vocal performances... the lyrics are yours yes??... I'm so impressed!!!
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TobinMueller said 4638 days ago (February 2nd, 2007)
The lyrics are yours yes??
Yes, the lyrics are mine. In this first Audiocracy project, all the lyrics are. (In Audiocracy II, I plan on sharing the lyrics load with you!) I am very excited to further our own collaboration into prog rock (I hope "Chimney" is just the beginning). It unlocks so many aspects of my musical journey: experimental, jazz, theatrical, unabashed melodrama, in a genre that disdains pat form and calls for invention and positive power. Groups like YES make music formed from light. I am very happy to finally sit down and use something from that prism. Thanks for enjoying this so much. Enthusiasm is infectious, and so necessary.
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alfalpha said 4638 days ago (February 1st, 2007)
Terrific production
The production is top notch, one can hear all the effort which went into this.
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racerat said 4638 days ago (February 2nd, 2007)

I mean wow. Lots of hard work that shows. The vocals definitely have shades of Brian Eno. The arrangement competes with Crimson, Yes, Genesis. Sprawling. Epic. Incredible mix. Great sonic definition of instrumentation.
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TobinMueller said 4603 days ago (March 9th, 2007)
Thanks. You list some of my favorite bands. Its funny how a song evolves, from that first keyboard and set of lyrics pencilled on a yellow pad. Altho lots of sonic details remain, so many have gotten lost, only to be heard in my memory mind. I know you know what I mean. Like we build the final mix on the graveyard of each thought we sparked along the way. Part of what makes it epic in my mind. Thanks for reminding me, and for you kind enthusiasm.
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Mcboy said 4638 days ago (February 2nd, 2007)
are in full form.......great track!
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Reinholt56 said 4638 days ago (February 2nd, 2007)
I had another listen, or three, on my home hi-fi system and the quality of the piece came through superbly.

I second my earlier email opinion and say that this song was worth all the hard work and dedication put into it. Everyone seems to be having a ball and the atmosphere bubbles over, through the speakers, and makes me become a tiny part of the whole, through my listening experience.


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TobinMueller said 4240 days ago (March 6th, 2008)
Worth all the hard work
Thanks. I've listened to this track maybe 200 times and still get a kick out of some of the layered details. Thanks for enjoying them as well.
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peacepiano said 4638 days ago (February 2nd, 2007)
The Vocals are amazing. The band plays the intricate music beautifully. Reminiscent of a band called Star Castle from back in the day. Great tune. Thanks for sharing.
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guitapick said 4638 days ago (February 2nd, 2007)
as in: "I'm speechless".
Just so huge in scope. Excellent. All of you. An instant favorite and no brainer download.
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Vic Holman said 4638 days ago (February 2nd, 2007)
doesn't get more epic than this
i was hooked right at the beginning with what i'ld call a nod to hendrix's "and the gods made love" so much to hear and enjoy! a daunting task, but i hope this is a treasure to you. you and all involved have really shown that prog rock is not dead but can reinvent itself. stunning and epic.

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said 4637 days ago (February 3rd, 2007)
I am most struck
by the vocal performance, almost gospel-like, that comes in about 2/3 in.
Excellently done all around.
alanfraser said 4636 days ago (February 4th, 2007)
Technically brilliant
but it wasn't blowing me away and I don't mean to set a harsh standard as I'm thinking relative to the best as you blokes are easily the best musicians on MacJams. I'm thinking in terms of something like "Supper's Ready" as in my view that's the pinnacle of progrock. You know what...I'm thinking what I'd really love to hear from you all would be if you got a bottle of Southern Comfort and just jammed, just to let it rip and see what happened right off the top of your heads. I hope you hear that I do appreciate the technical masterpiece you have created here and what I'm bringing is my own little trip which may or may not have any value at all. Good luck!
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TobinMueller said 4635 days ago (February 5th, 2007)
more like Asia
Thanks for the listen, the wonderful compliments, and reminding us of the bar we need to shoot for. "Supper's Ready" is a pinnacle of progrock. This song is more like Asia. I imagine if we ever actually all get together in the same room, a really cool jam might occur. I hope one day it will. Also, I hope to do a purely instrumental project with these guys, so I won't feel so driven to place the vocals front and center. The first mixes of this track highlight the players more than the singers, but I just wasn't happy with it, so I let loose with choral stuff and am more satisfied with it now. But I hope we learn from all these critiques and keep getting better at aiming for our own pinnacle. Thanks again.
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Ed Hannifin said 4636 days ago (February 4th, 2007)
...I regretfully have to say that this one doesn't do it for me...

I think that for me the subjective effect, listening, as instructed, over my best headphones and good 'n loud, is that of a Broadway musical with a lot of big note singing, and, lyrically, going for a Big Theme.

For me, a listener who has very much appreciated and frequently downloaded a lot of your work, I find that this one has less heart than those of your songs that I have loved. Where some of the excerpts you have posted from the Creature project get right down to the particular, and speak from a very heartfelt place, this one seems to stand back from what it describes, and tells rather than shows.

I think this is my beef with a lot of the prog rock that I DON'T enjoy, as opposed to the prog I do... Its reach exceeds its heart... and ultimately I'm not moved, even though I'm predisposed to BE moved...

The production itself is flawless to my ears, and I can certainly hear the totally professional chops involved. I can also hear in the production that this is one of those projects that you are really into. I am also conscious that I'm in the minority in terms of how I'm responding to this work... But my impression has always been that you are one of those on this site who gives and receives honestly, so I am giving my best effort to give you an honest response....

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TobinMueller said 4635 days ago (February 5th, 2007)
Broadway and Prog Big Notes/Themes
I know what you mean. Thanks for the honesty. And thanks for turning it up and taking the time to listen in headphones.

You are right, this is a narrative piece, not a "from a character perspective" song. For me, personally, it lives inside my head as a choral cinematic cerebral collage. It is one of the things that makes Prog (as well as Broadway) lower on the popularity scale, this sort of puffed up indulgent melodrama. But it is also what makes Prog so much fun to swirl around inside of. I know from my personal place as participating member, this track moves me a great deal. Of course, seeing my own son sing with such passion is enough to bring me to tears, an experience I realize does not translate to others. It is so hard to share the feeling you get performing, to make the recording make that manifest. Sometimes it is a matter of taste, I suspect; but in this case I struggled and finally opted for a removed, observer, narrative large group feel, to illustrate of the irony of a hollow, antiseptic, overpopulated future juxtaposed with the passion of past expectations. It is, I realize, an esoteric concept. I just have to keep trying... And thanks again for putting such effort into your listening.
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Ed Hannifin said 4635 days ago (February 5th, 2007)
Tobin, I just have to say...
That a reply like this to a comment like mine is one of the reasons I respect you so much on this site, and hold you in such high regard...

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mikkinylund said 4636 days ago (February 4th, 2007)
I have had to listen to this so many times before making an honest comment. This is a song that has so much that it would be impossible to to give it one listen and just comment, of course, other with what your heart first did hear (which is not always bad either). So, okay, this is obviously not a style all that familiar to me, so take everything with consideration. It's a very good song. It has several sections to it, all of them perfomed with the highest quality and passion. There are so many vocal arrangements, that I personally could see some of them being toned down a little bit to give more room for the story that is being told - but also when they they occur with their brilliance they would appear even stronger. It's to me almost like the nice and rich vocal arrangement in some small ways takes away from the meaning of the song, instead of adding to it; it fools my ears and I am haunted by the performance instead of the meaning (again, this may also be the attention some times).
The lyrics are very good and overall fits the concept of the music. The instrumental break (my favorite), gives me a chance to breath in and take the words and their meaning to me, a very nice and fitting passage. The guitars and syntheseizers are very well performed and fits like a glove. Love the cymbal ending as well!
Overall: This is of course a very huge song in many senses. Some of the above critique I had to search for - and everybody knows that if you search you will find. A great, needed message that will add to the Revolution's Son. I am looking forward to the next chapter of this story... Thank you all involved/Mikki
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TobinMueller said 4635 days ago (February 5th, 2007)
...haunted by the performance
I agree that, in places, there is too much happening, too many vocal washes that make it work to discover what it is you should be listening for. That is why I need a producer/editor. I always make things too complex. But, as rationalization, what comes out is more from the mind of the composer that way, even if it could be a better track with less layered production. I love your comment "I am haunted by the performance instead of the meaning (again, this may also be the intention)." The narrative, overpopulated choral build was indeed intended, and altho the meaning was a bit buried, I never wanted it buried too far. I like to build in discovery to these sorts of songs; thanks for putting in the work to try and mine it. More than anything, I appreciate that you search for meaning, for message, and that you anticipate finding one. It's comments like that that make me want to keep writing the new chapter...
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I. Spike said 4635 days ago (February 5th, 2007)
A new type...
Very interesting... This sounds like a new type of music to me Ambient Musical Opera Fusion... or something like that.
Excellent contributions on everyone's part.

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TobinMueller said 4635 days ago (February 5th, 2007)
Ambient Musical Opera Fusion
...thanks. I added that to the keywords!
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haribo said 4635 days ago (February 5th, 2007)
wholesome performance / writing
the result of this collaboration is quality indeed! exciting to witness various layers reflecting each member's originality conjuring up to an aesthetic momentum of catharsis. i particularily enjoyed rather ethnicness/third world feel where pinch of exotic instrumentation appeared.. it added to another dimension of sounds (the fluty sound)!

thanks for sharing this track. fab vocals and wonderful work on drums and other arrangements!
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Macaudion said 4635 days ago (February 5th, 2007)
My my..., misters...
Where to start...

I'll start by tracing the trails of the chills that this piece rendered so thoroughly about upon my satiated being -

Your singing...- Its much richer, than I recall - Beautiful work! Every key - Obviously, a work of passion, Tobin - I could hear the devotion to these words that you sing - This seem to have come from beyond a heart and soul that is of, just one... - It sounds as if it came from a few travels, and from the voices of, the many...


All of the intricate rhythmic layers... - goodness in abundance - Masterful!

*Okay, so I hadda bomb ya some tens*

The guitar work! - strikingly, SWEET and very, very, right on!

The synth work, - Majestic! It really lifts the spirit! to a place that it seems you were wanting to share...

The drum/percussive action - Real and w/ the driving 'confidence in a knowing', raw energy of a well seasoned studio drummer -- (hard for the best of real drummers) The drum sequencing was spot on, too.

That time/harmonic shift, where you journey us deep into the places from whence, this seemed to've come... the guitar synth/moog work there - and then where your vocals rhythmically ties us back to somewhere near the 'now' of all this... and the guitar that accompanies it... - *Pure treat!* -- absolutely beautiful!

The ending!!!...

The production... - I'd be okay w/ being able to be just a little like you when I grow up... : )

An awful lot of passion poured into a great deal of some seriously focused 'works', here - Thanks for sharing that! Macca

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K.I.S.KISMET said 4635 days ago (February 5th, 2007)
..contribution from everyone. vehement delivery...massive sounds. vocals are superb!
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Norman Goodman said 4634 days ago (February 5th, 2007)
more can be said than what has already been so eloquently expressed by the other listeners postings for this song. Rather I will just express my sheer admiration and enjoyment of an exceptionally written, arranged and performed piece!. Very intricate, melodic and powerful. Guitar playing and keys were particular standouts.
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said 4634 days ago (February 6th, 2007)
I stand in awe...
...struck dumb by the epic majesty of this tune. Wonderfully crafted lyrics. Pro playing and mix throughout. Yes, yes, yes! Long live Audiocracy!!!

Be well!

said 4634 days ago (February 6th, 2007)
you know
Im standing here painting and I'm listing to this and I got so into what I was doing that I forgot who it was I was listening to. then it struck me its Tobin and I said to myself what a great song!!!!!!
Komrade K said 4633 days ago (February 7th, 2007)
Triumph (over adversity)
This is an amazing collaboration even before taking into account the trials faced by the individual contributors. The playing is absolutely top notch and I have to congratulate you all for successfully realising such a vast and impressive musical vision!

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Leon said 4632 days ago (February 7th, 2007)
This song is of epic proportions, in terms of scope and boldness, in both vocal and instrumental arrangement, and it succeeds to a great extent. The scope of the song is a little too wide and long that sometimes it's hard to keep things in focus, but the ambitiousness of this undertaking is breath-taking i will have to say. The vocals really stretches bravely to unfamiliar teritories, a little hint of strain at times but for the most part impressive, and the music is impeccably adventurous. The background percussions makes me feel like this is an African journey like a safari, with lots of interesting sonic discoveries along the way. Great job, Tobin and to the other contributing artists.
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Bowman said 4631 days ago (February 9th, 2007)
and inspiring. A heart felt production filled with a love music and life.
Loved it.

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said 4629 days ago (February 11th, 2007)
I don't know what to say.... I loved everything about it. The vocals were so dynamic, the guitars so tasteful, the keys so dreamy. The bottom line is that this is a monumental piece. You guys do wonderful work with each other.

It has been so long that a song has made me want to practice, but you guys did it!! Thank you and thanks for sharing. Monumental! You guys should tour!
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Einarus said 4620 days ago (February 20th, 2007)
I don't really know how to comment on this. I mean, every compliment imaginable has already been used and I can't really hear anything special to criticize.
The production on this is pretty much flawless, the vocals are powerful and clean and all instrumental performances are nothing short of excellent!

So I guess I'm just here to reiterate what's already been said and show my admiration for this piece in word. Because this really is quite an awesome track. I can tell a lot of work went into this (possibly because you said so, hehe) but every second of it apparently paid off.


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said 4580 days ago (April 1st, 2007)
A sound track
Two years in the making! Fine landscape. Great spread. A celebratory sound attempting to uplift what may be a future of wrecked dreams. Let's hope it all turns out well. I'd like to hear more clarity in the lead voice. I was too glued to the lyrics posted here because of the muddiness caused by voice doubling. Or am I losing auditory acuity? Overall, a splendid, Broadway-type song. Very theatrical. Can hollowness be filled with a concrete spirit of love? Or will everything end up as broken shards in the depressions of human ennui?
TobinMueller said 4579 days ago (April 2nd, 2007)
Questions about the future
Good questions, Richard. My solace is that I am about my small life now, one with personal answers to intuitive/more focused questions; no longer about the larger picture and someone else's unanswerable ones. I work a corner of the garden and just hope the sun keeps shining, the air doesn't induce asthma, my arthritis stays at bay, and larger feet don't tread too close. Thanks for more thoughts.
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