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this is my first song on GB. It's a soundtrack-ey sort of thing, and I'd appreciate any feedback on how to improve (recording or songwriting).
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Uploaded: Mar 20, 2007 - 08:43:51 AM
Last Updated: Mar 18, 2007 - 09:53:13 PM Last Played: May 31, 2019 - 01:06:32 PM
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drakonis said 4481 days ago (March 20th, 2007)
Nice way to waltz in!
I really enjoyed the simple melody and orchestration (simple is a compliment, I mean that it is clean with good counterpoint & harmonies, as opposed to muddy and full of unisons and dissonances). Not too over-crowded, but good build and variation of instruments. Really nice little guitar-embellishment... that was done on a keyboard? The panning was generally good, with the main instruments near center, and extras off to the sides, fairly well balanced. My critiques would be the following (note that I listen with headphones, so some of these may not be as important on a home stereo): The "presence" was a little dry, it felt like there should be just a teeny touch more room reverb to give this a big-room feel. The laughter near the end was unexpected, which may be a good thing, but I almost wanted a lead-up to it, like some other sound effect just before it (breaking dishes, or a "honk-honk" horn sound, though that may be too slapstick.) I like how this leaves a lot to the imagination, so you may want to ignore that last suggestion, now that I think more about it. There seemed to be a couple of places where there was some clipping (distortion during loud spots), so you may need to back the master volume down very slightly, or (shudder) use a little compression. But, overall, a really nice bit of "circus" music... it could very well be a part of a little movie. Of course, more information on your bio and this piece would be helpful too... do you play this via MIDI real-time into the computer, or do you hand-score the piece (in GB or some other notation program) note-by-note?
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michael2 said 4481 days ago (March 20th, 2007)
thanks for the critique. i played the whole thing live, one track at a time (including the drums).

i appreciate the comments. when you say the presence is dry, are you suggesting that I add reverb overall to the whole mix, or to the main melody?

i will check for the clipping you mentioned as well. thanks again.
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drakonis said 4481 days ago (March 20th, 2007)
dry presence, just add water...
Hmm.. that's a tricky question to answer. It depends on how deeply you want to get into production. Here are my 3 answers to that question (other *real* audio engineers should pipe in and disagree with me!):
(1) Easy way - Yes, add a touch of reverb to the whole thing. Go to MASTER Track in GB, and increase the Reverb setting there a little. This is the simplest, and gives mediocre results (adds some muddiness as well as presence.)
(2) Better/harder way - Yes, add reverb to the whole thing, but not with the regular REVERB. Go to each track and turn OFF reverb. Then go to the master track and turn on my favorite tool, the "AUMatrix Reverb" tool, open it (click on the pencil) and adjust to taste. My suggestion for your piece would be "Medium Hall" Preset, but then manually set the Wet/Dry mix back down from 100% to about 30%. This setting gives a very soft but realistic reverb, better than the simple reverb slider.
(3) Tricky/best way - Yes and no. Different instruments sound better/worse with extra reverb. First do step 2 above, but then go back and manually turn on a little more of the stock reverb for some of the higher-pitched and more staccato instruments (like the guitar), to give them a little extra tail.

Hope that helps! Play around with it and see what it sounds like. I often do a few different mixes, then burn them ALL to CD, and play them on the stereo to see which sounds best.

Anyway, good stuff, I like it!


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michael2 said 4481 days ago (March 20th, 2007)
i will try out your suggestions, thanks a bunch. waht i'm really loving about this site is being able to learn new tricks from others. hey did you see my reviews of your stuff?
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bud said 4481 days ago (March 20th, 2007)
This a really charming piece -
I love the feel and production. It's wonderful that you have the talent and ability to play all the parts yourself - it's nice not hearing any loops. I'm not much of a techie or music theorist - so I'll just encourage you to experiment and have fun. Take as much liberty as you like - there's a really wide berth here for experimentation.
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michael2 said 4481 days ago (March 20th, 2007)
thanks for the kind words. the drums were "played" on a keyboard not a set. they are in garageband, i think it was the jazz kit. if i had turned up the volume a little more, you would see how they are slightly off time at the beginning of the song. i don't have any problems with loops, but i wanted some fills and different rhythms. not being all that accomplished with GB yet, i figured i would just pound out a beat.
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Heightened said 4223 days ago (December 3rd, 2007)
Topo's Revenge
love how you choose to step over that music boundary - not a big step but definitely unique. Very impressive for your earliest upload.
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lavalamp said 4155 days ago (February 10th, 2008)
For your first, it's well recorded. It reminds me of the circus and clowns, which makes it scary and a bit creepy, but don't get me wrong. I like it, man.
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said 4000 days ago (July 13th, 2008)
Top's Revenge
Love it. Sounds really catchy and It reminds me of a merry go round at a fair as well as a clown in a circus ring. You did a great job on this too.
I love it. brought some lovely imagery to mind. Thanks.
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