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The minstrel boy (V4C01) w/Rebsie


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apb

 Genre: Dance-Club

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This was fun! My first ever entry to an MJ thing. Enjoy...

I took the opportunity to not sing and not to play any real instruments, this is all done with mostly GB v3 and it's loop library..there is just one DoD drum loop and a couple of TuMI free loops too (harp+)... oh and then there is the bell chimes sample from EXS24 in Logic Pro 7 and the royalty free bodhrain loops from Computer Music issue #63 .. oh and not forgetting the touch of baroque harpsichord :o)

For those who don't know about this game, check out: Voice4choice and the source of Rebsie's vocal was from V4C01 Female A 75bpm although I went for 139 BPM and used a fair amount of loops in the key of D. Here is the forum thread.

The lyrics were written by Thomas Moore (1779-1852) .. he was a slow writer :o)

Oh and I made the cover art with Spooky Times Gravestone Generator and resisted putting in a black & white minstrel and a packet of chocolate minstrels with photoshop. :o)
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Lyrics
The minstrel boy to the war is gone,
In the ranks of death you'll find him;
His father's sword he hath girded on,
And his wild harp slung behind him;
"Land of Song!" cried the warrior bard,
"Tho' all the world betrays thee,
One sword, at least, thy right shall guard,
One faithful harp shall praise thee!"

The Minstrel fell! But the foeman's chain
Could not bring that proud soul under;
The harp he lov'd ne'er spoke again,
For he tore its chords asunder;
And said "No chains shall sully thee,
Thou soul of love and brav'ry!
Thy songs were made for the pure and free
They shall never sound in slavery!
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Uploaded: Jul 21, 2007 - 10:19:04 AM
Last Updated: Aug 05, 2007 - 03:42:42 PM Last Played: Jul 29, 2019 - 03:44:22 AM
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Comments
said 4413 days ago (July 21st, 2007)
Nice done my friend
I really like hove you have put all this together... I have also d-load but I can't find my feelings for the moment... I am lost.

Take care
---
Kenta
apb said 4413 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
Tack Kenta ..
.. you have the ears to pick out what I did with loops etc.
I spent a fair amount of time 'treating' Rebsie's vocals in
various ways. I started this on Thursday night a few hrs then,
then same again yesterday late afteroon. If you get your
feelings back on this, let me know. My key goal was to
use some Irishy instruments but at the same time make it
fresh and dance-club ish .. I must admit I have what I
consider a slight advantage to this approach: I have never ever heard this tune in any shape or form before, surprising but true.. and I kept it that way during production, thus
I had no point of reference.
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said 4411 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
I'll promise
I give you a note when I have some thing going on.
I start with a tune with violins and I had Richards, vox and I also try with Rebsie, but I could not feel like I am use to do... SO I sing on that tune and post it to MY LOVE... he he

Take care
---
Kenta

---
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said 4413 days ago (July 21st, 2007)
REBSIE AND APB .. This is Great
Ohh .. This is the song that Mrs. Rebsie have told me about it ..
Really great one ..
Amazing vocal as always .. the music is a fun and nice ..
Like dancing music .. but really good job you do ..
Thanks so much for this piece ..

Regardz
==============
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apb said 4413 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
Thanks Yeman ..
I really enjoyed your latest at this time: I remember.


If you've time, you should check out the other V4C01 renditions available at time of writing:



Illuminati


Diviner

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Feter said 4413 days ago (July 21st, 2007)
The minstrel boy
this is a great experimental ..unexpected
mix ...Rebsie charming voice .. just awesome !
its just so new ..so brave to do ..the words
sure just wonderfull ...!
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apb said 4413 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
Thanks Feter
.. I was going for 'different' and of course having some fun
:o)
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ceilidh said 4413 days ago (July 21st, 2007)
hiya alan :)
the beginning with bells is really charming and also like the beat but the highlight of this tune for me is that mid part, where you made a repetition of some Rebsie's words with rocky music change for the second verse, that is really cool. And really like that simple melody of acoustic guitar, hidden little bit behind rebsie's singing (at the beginning of the song). It has very quiet sound, but so beautiful.


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apb said 4413 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
Thanks Paja
..that's my favourite little hook section too. Glad you enjoyed what I did. Did you get those bell chimes sorted?
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ceilidh said 4410 days ago (July 24th, 2007)
...
i did. you are a precious :)

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said 4413 days ago (July 21st, 2007)
dude!
i have been listening to these vocal tracks for a couple of days, and am still working out how to make it a metal song!!!!
you have done well, my young padawan....
all loops, huh? not even the littlest urge to play or sing on it?
love the ending.. sudden and fitting.
apb said 4413 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
Return of the Allen ..;o)
padawan! pfft .. lol .. I had to look that up ..although
I've seen all the Star Wars movies *doh* .. at 37 I'm a
bit too old to be a padawan lol.. but anyways .. I'm
glad you liked this little excursion. Can't wait to hear
what you do too. Use the forceps! or something like that ..
;o)
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apb said 4413 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
Oh .. I meant to admit
I did have a 10min urge to try some make backing vocals and/or a guitar solo .. but my vocal mind is elsewhere and my guitar head is also elsewhere .. this was a nice distraction to focus the other parts of my brain... that still work. ;o)
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apb said 4411 days ago (July 24th, 2007)
Oh ..
..if your reading this and haven't already, check out
Allen's entry here.
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said 4413 days ago (July 21st, 2007)
Flowing
good use of loops the vocaals seem to fit in more towards the end! Speaking of the end the comic boing is one of my favorites!
apb said 4413 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
Thanks Tim
..ah, a fellow 'comic boing' fan :o) .. when you got a convenient gap, it is hard to resist: it's presence is
used a metaphor to remind everyone, this is a 'fun' thing
to attempt and not get overly competitive... and of course
to give Rebsie a laugh :o)

Bending the backing loops to kinda fit the vocals in a 'different' way was the tricky part. Something I've not tried
so much before, so was a bit of a learning/experience for me .. which for me is what these kind of challenges are all about.
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SmokeyVW said 4413 days ago (July 21st, 2007)
stumpy!
i'm thinking Star Trek next gen

thanks

(i think)
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apb said 4412 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
:o)
.. more of a Dr Who fan myself ;o) Thanks Smokey.
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Doadars Uncle said 4413 days ago (July 21st, 2007)
Melange of Styles
This is very exciting! It moves! Enjoyable!

Doug
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apb said 4412 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
Thanks
glad you picked up on that: there is a bit of celtic, ambient, dance-club/techno, rock and 70's cop show too blended in.
:o)
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said 4413 days ago (July 21st, 2007)
alan, my friend!
this is great. it's like celtic club music!
very unique!
very cool!
i have been listening to these too. i tooled with rebsie's vocals, but i like both.
i think you came out a set the standard!
good job, bro!
apb said 4412 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
Thanks very much Jason
.. too kind. I kinda feel I had more fun doing this than
anyone will have from listening to it ..lol.

Overall it is celtic/dance-club .. which I guess is natural
if you try to make this traditional piece with traditional
style vocals 'move' a bit more.

Fun also to try using the computer totally and not pick
up my guitar or sing... which I avoid like the plague at
the best of times anyway :o)
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Diviner said 4413 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
Good entry
I really like the backing music, and its a mad mix with the vocal. It does stand out. Nice one. ;-)
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apb said 4412 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
Thanks Keith
I did my best to make it strange/unusual/different .. but
in some way pleasing to my ears at least. Glad you enjoyed
it.

Have you checked out illuminati's entry yet? here

All good stuff.
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musichead said 4412 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
swirling
I liked the swirly thing you havegoing in the background.
nice vocals....great job Alan
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apb said 4412 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
Thanks Steve
that'll be those chime bell samples? that are swirling, I think .. I found on my HD that belonged to Logic Pro and the EXS24 soft-sampler.
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blaky smith said 4412 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
Different...
Nice distraction, very well done...
Rebsie's vocals and your original work with loops : excel result !
Good piece to listen, thanks, bravo Alan...
Marc
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apb said 4411 days ago (July 24th, 2007)
Thanks Marc
.. since I never knew any other versions of this before I
started, I expected I would result in something 'different'.
Glad to know it was - mission accomplished. :o)
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Mystified said 4412 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
quirky and creepy!!
Nice reworking and derangement, here!!

:D
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apb said 4411 days ago (July 24th, 2007)
Thanks Mysti
I interpret the text as a post battle memoriam to this
"warrior bard", who was mortally wounded in battle but
managed to bravely tear his harp apart in defiance before he
died, (so it should never fall into the oppressors hands and 'sound in slavery'. So I split the song into two main sections ..marking the change of opening in present tense and the
'back to what happened' re-collection up tempo battle
events.

ie. I interpret "in the ranks of death" as "in the ranks of
dead".
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jiguma said 4412 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
Nicely done Alan!
:)
Neil
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apb said 4411 days ago (July 24th, 2007)
Thanks Neil ..
btw - still waiting on Sonny Jim for our collab :o)
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Macaudion said 4412 days ago (July 22nd, 2007)
Well...
Whaduyasay to that...

You get to have your own genre, and everything...

Can't buy it...

Quite an odd ensemble of sounds that wound so tightly together, to make this happen - and very well, I might add!

Shook me far away from what I'd think to expect - Bonus!

Lovely singing!

Excellent musicianship!

Who'd a thunk that we could find such a facinating listen here!

Truly - Thanks for sharing! Macca
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apb said 4411 days ago (July 24th, 2007)
Thanks Dion
it was fun to try blending a few different styles- something
using loops gives you ease to experiment with.

Always nice to pleasantly surprise people too, glad it was a fun listen.

I don't really know about this being a new genre it could
sit in "dance/club" I suppose .. even with the celtic/rock/
70s cop show/techno bits .. I'm never sure and if in doubt,
stick it in "Other" or "Experimental" is my wild and crazy
notion to resolve :o)


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VicDiesel said 4411 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
the drummer with a different beat
Interesting, interpreting this as double tempo. Rebsie as dance diva? :-)

Sounds great.

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apb said 4411 days ago (July 24th, 2007)
:o) Thanks Victor
..I did spend quite some time first just working on the sound of Rebsie's vocal: tweaking with FX, compression etc and planning some variation in sound at key points and the repetition bit. It was fun to introduce Rebsie the dance diva and try to cross the slower lamenting vocal with a double-time beat/backing, to try and make the whole thing 'flow/move'.
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apb said 4411 days ago (July 24th, 2007)
Oh ..
and if your reading this and haven't already, check out
Vic's 'A Capella' entry here
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bud said 4411 days ago (July 23rd, 2007)
You really managed
to find the beat in this and work really well with the double-time tempo. The blend of voices is very interesting and offsets Rebsie's voice in a nice way. Welcome to MJ games - glad you decided to play.
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apb said 4411 days ago (July 24th, 2007)
Thanks bud
..it was fun! Thanks to all the organisers. Will definitely
look out for V4C02! Glad you liked the way Rebsie's vocal
played against the backing, I kinda liked that too- even if
it was a bit more manic than others :o)

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bud's entry here.
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MKVX said 4409 days ago (July 25th, 2007)
Wow
That was great! Kung pow! Those vocals were chillingly awesome. I think the vocals could be a tiny bit quieter tho. This is really creative. This is a completely unique approach to the V4C01. Liked it!
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apb said 4408 days ago (July 27th, 2007)
"From now on you shall call me .. Betty"
Thanks. I seemed to have picked up on that haunting quality
there is in Rebsie's voice when she sings older traditional
songs - she gives a gaelic spooky touch in the softness of
her voice.

As I mentioned above, it's supposed to be quite chilling ..
with the notion that for the first 4 lines .. the Minstrel
Boy is 'dead' he is 'gone' as in 'lost to the war' already ..and he is described as he looks 'dead', still with his sword and harp on him. Then it moves to an account of the battle. This just seemed a convenient way to inflect a
slightly different interpretation musically too.


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perceptualvortex said 4408 days ago (July 26th, 2007)
Cool
Great backing for Rebsie's voice. Nice going apb.
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apb said 4408 days ago (July 27th, 2007)
Thanks pv
.. for stopping by and givin this a listen, glad you enjoyed
it.
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said 4408 days ago (July 26th, 2007)
Nice

I like your choice of drums, quite a light sound . The "synths" sounds too . Maybe for an electro experimental piece the voice could be a little more in the sounds .
And the bass could go into a faster line at some point in the song .
Very cool version .

apb said 4408 days ago (July 27th, 2007)
Thanks Henri
.. I forgot to mention in the lid what I did for drums:
they are in fact 2 of the "Mowtown drummer" loops from the
GB v3 library .. but when the 'rock' guitar comes in, I
blended in/beefed up the drumming with a DoD (Drums on
Demand) loop, that made the bass drums quite interesting and
provided some cymbal crashes.

Thanks for the tips too, appreciate that.
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apb said 4408 days ago (July 27th, 2007)
Oh ..
..and if you haven't already heard Henri's entry, it is
here
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Dj French Toast said 4408 days ago (July 26th, 2007)
This is sweet
Very well arranged and planed out . love it
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apb said 4408 days ago (July 27th, 2007)
Thanks
..was 'some' planning involved and some 'let's just see how
this sounds and where it spring boards me to'

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ledebutant said 4407 days ago (July 27th, 2007)
Alan
I knew you'd do something interesting with this and you didn't disappoint. I think the song really picks up focus in the second half, though I enjoed the opening, too. Even though this is loops, I don't actually recognize many of them, which means I have to give you my packet of chocolate minstrels. Great work.
apb said 4407 days ago (July 28th, 2007)
Thanks Lisa
.. I think by intentially looking elsewhere than just GB v3 loop library
(I think it was 5 non- GB loops/samples I
used) and by cutting most of the major featured loops from
GB a fair bit, I got away from the backing being too easily
recognised ['comic cartoon boing' being a little exception :o).. even
though I treated that even with heavy 100% pitch adjust to key .. to make it warble even more]
- something I am well aware of as a pitfall of using loops.

The drums I used were just two patterns of 'mowtown drummer'
- not cut at all .. but instead made sound different by combining a
DoD drum loop with it when the rock guitar came in.

Glad I didn't disappoint you by taking the opportunity to
flex my 'songs using loops' practice.... taking away the
technical issue of recording real instruments and getting
your real performance 'right' I felt just left me more
time to explore musical interpretation, arrangement and
voice selection with this challenge. That was more than
enough for the time I had.

"They melt in your mouth and not in your hand", the chocolates .. er .. not the minstrel boys. ;o)
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Estella said 4406 days ago (July 28th, 2007)
woo hoo!
Rebsie's voice sounds beautiful! A tad electronic at just some points. I kind of like the contrast of her lulling, sweet melody with the electronic, driving energy of the backing. Keeps my attention.

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apb said 4406 days ago (July 29th, 2007)
Thanks Estella :o)
glad you could find the time to pop by for a listen,
appreciate it. Going 'club' 'techno' ish and using a fair
amount of more electronic sounding loops was something I
wanted to deliberately offset up there with (as you say)
Rebsie's sweet, yet slightly chilling - so as long as the
backing remained 'dark' and 'spooky' in some sense, I thought
they might gel .. but I appreciate my experiment might not
be for all tastes with the techno loops and TuMI synth bass - was loads of fun though. :o)
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dajama said 4406 days ago (July 28th, 2007)
Excellent
Ethereal and driving at the same time. Rebsie's vocal performance is great - terrific emotion and lovely tones - and i love the changes you have put under it. Some very unexpected things going on in the background, and it all works! Very cool. Nice work. Peace.
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apb said 4406 days ago (July 29th, 2007)
Thanks David
glad you liked the changes, the fiddle pattern and changes
was the hardest and took a fair bit of time.
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said 4405 days ago (July 29th, 2007)
Wocka Wocka Guitar!
This is marvellous! The exhuberent pulse and beat of the music matches perfectly with Rebsie's vocal... how did you manage that particular circus stunt, o master? We novices can learn so much.

Everything works so well together. I recognize some of those loops, and would never have guessed they could sound so natural with Rebsie's vocal. Who'da thunk it? The repeating of some of the vocal was a brilliant move as well; way to go, Alan. This one's a keeper. Thanks.
apb said 4403 days ago (July 31st, 2007)
Us ..
.. masters (*cough splutter choke*) call it "wicka chicka" .. well at least the treblier version of "wocka chocka" that is ;o) ...I think I was attracted to the loop name instantly "70s cop show" ..I chopped it up (as with others) to be a bit different ..

Glad you enjoyed it Rik .. it does grow on you I find ..
and not like athlete's foot either. :o)

Oh, for using 139 BPM you have the mention of it in the
thread from Jim .. I didn't figure that out myself ..
just that I wanted to go for the fast double time beat under
the slower Rebsie vocal.

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alfalpha said 4405 days ago (July 30th, 2007)
woah!
I was just getting into some 'genre' headspace here, but kept getting 'shaken' out of my pidgeon holing efforts!

An amazing choice of various sounds, riffs, loops, but still maintaining Rebsie's ethereal vocal quality...I just LOVE that tympani pitch-bend!

Cheers Allen, great stuff!
Many thanks,
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apb said 4403 days ago (July 31st, 2007)
"stop the pigeon!" er .. holing ..:o)
.. thinking about genre is natural when listening, as is writing to a known genre, I do that too. However, I like to experiment with blending 'sounds' also regardless of style or genre they 'usually' come from ..and then all 'does this fit in this genre' bets are off, its if the sounds work together thats important. Using loops is a great way
to experiment and find some surprising combos .. and work on
arrangement, musical interpretation of the voice etc.

I'm 'Alan' .. "Allen" is "the r.a.d.project" - (I knew that collab would confuse some).

Thanks Alf, glad you appreciate a good timpani 'boing' from
time to time. :o)



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MacFerret said 4282 days ago (November 29th, 2007)
Dizzying!
What a dizzying ride - a cascade of clever ideas, well played nad mixed, with Rebsie floating ethereally overhead. (Interesting to see other collabs that you - and indeed Rebsie - have featured on: I enjoyed your work on Invisible, too.)
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apb said 4281 days ago (November 30th, 2007)
Thanks Macferret
.. I have a handy list of links on my main artist page for just that purpose.
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Heightened said 4239 days ago (January 12th, 2008)
Wonderful piece.
And super unique.
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dlb said 4203 days ago (February 17th, 2008)
WOW!
this is so original! Love it! Rebsie's voice is fab and the music, well it's top notch.
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said 4171 days ago (March 19th, 2008)
Very enjoyable.

Hi apb thanks for this link it was really nice
I am on my win xp at the momment and my sounds not that good- will listen more later on my Mac one.
What I could hear was really good as well.
Rebsie has an amazing voice and even though it was loops it was well created.Well done you guys.

Peace Dee.

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