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Wow, I haven't uploaded here in a long while. I guess you could say, I've been pretty busy trying to get better. That and trying to graduate college. But alas, I graduate Friday. Time to go into the real world. Hurray terrible job market.

Alright, now down to the song.

This is my first composition using Stormdrum 2 and Symphonic Orchestra Gold and boy do I love this software. I like how the song ended up and I'm really please with the results. The only thing I really regret is not buying more ram before buying the software. Compose a couple measures, then freeze each track. Compose some more, then freeze. Ah well. I guess that's what I get for being on a budget.

I didn't do much in the sense of mixing. Most of the instruments they have are already pre-panned so I just tried to level out all the instruments to sit well in the mix. I haven't figured out the multi-output instruments so I wasn't able to apply compression to the drumkits as I'd like, but I still like where it ended up.

As the title states, it's supposed to be a dungeon that provides one with unforeseen challenges. Let me know what you think.

Please vote fairly, thanks in advance for any comments.

~SinJim

Dungeon of Deceit
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Comments: 9
Fans: 3
Plays: 19
Downloads: 71
Votes: 2
Uploaded: Dec 14, 2008 - 11:29:47 PM
Last Updated: Dec 14, 2008 - 11:29:47 PM Last Played: Jun 30, 2019 - 05:41:56 PM
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Hardware:
Yamaha DGX-203, Macbook, headphones, physical labor
Software:
Logic Studio 8, EastWest Symphonic Orchestra Gold, EastWest Stormdrum 2, Wiretap Studio, not enough ram
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Feter said 3929 days ago (December 14th, 2008)
- Dungeon of Deceit -
first ...congrats for the graduation and ...second congrat with great thanks
for the HUGE and gorgeous music you uploaded tonight ...this is so high ..
so dramatic ...very convincing instruments you chose to write ...very heavy stuff here the structure of writings just top notch ...kudos ..and thnx
alot for sharin this gem !!!!
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SinJimMusic said 3929 days ago (December 14th, 2008)
Re: Feter
Woo! As always, you're first to comment Feter. Thanks for stopping by and I'm really glad that you liked this. I've been working pretty hard to get better and it hopefully shows. I'm excited that you enjoyed the instrumentation and structure. Thanks again for the comments!

~SinJim
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kassia said 3928 days ago (December 16th, 2008)
missed this one when you posted it for some reason
What incredible deep bass sounds! I love the percussion in this - seems like you're really exploring Stormdrum. Very cool staccato strings. Compositionally this just has so many layers. It's beautiful and lush. I was reading your incredible feedback on Zagar's new song and was really interested in what you had to say about sample delay. I've been working on my own stuff, really experimenting with panning and placement to get a realistic orchestral sound, but it's nothing compared to what you have achieved here. I'll have to try some delay and see what happens!

You definitely have a talent for painting a picture with your music. The sounds and textures you chose for this are perfect. Right around 1:30 when everything drops out except for the strings - VERY cool, and then the great cymbal swell to bring it all back in. Just before 1:30 my ear was wanting some high, echoey haunting descant (but that's just me).

You have a real attention to detail and a great ear for what works. Lots of talent here, can't wait to hear more from you!
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SinJimMusic said 3928 days ago (December 16th, 2008)
Re: Kassia
Thanks for the comments here Kassia, I really appreciate them. I loves Stormdrum so far. It really puts so many different ideas into my head and it's helped me to broaden my spectrum in terms of approaching song ideas.

The funny thing about EastWest products is that they're all pre-panned. I mean I guess you could say that I have a pretty good grasp on the orchestral panning and whatnot, but I was unsure what to do when I purchased the Symphonic Orchestra stuff. I had the urge to change how it was panned, but it just fit in so well that I didn't touch it.

The sample delay works pretty well, but as I mentioned to Zagar, it's not very noticeable up front. It sort of just tricks your ears into thinking it's being played in a realy hall or room, or whatever you want it to be shaped like. I've really started to apply some of the orchestral panning and mixing techniques I've used to other genres. It's interesting what sounds you can come up with.

Thanks again for all the comments, I'll be stopping by your profile at some point to check out your stuff. Probably tonight.

~SinJim
Check out my latest song called - When the Smoke Clears -
magnatone said 3928 days ago (December 16th, 2008)
Dungeon of Deceit
sinjim - WOW - this is FABULOUS! You're making me want to run out and get eastwest, but I'd have the same problem as you re: RAM (also have a macbook). But your skill here in the composing is just AWESOME. It makes me wonder what you'll be able to do when you have a computer that can handle the download from your brain! I really admire your music and can't wait to hear what you're going to come up with next - thanks for coming back to MJ!
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SinJimMusic said 3928 days ago (December 16th, 2008)
Re: Magna
Wow, thank you for all your kind words. If you do want to spend the money, I would highly recommend EastWest. Granted I do have plans for a $6,000 Mac Pro... but that's neither here nor there. Depending on what kind of Macbook you have (year wise) you may be able to handle adding some more ram. I'm relatively sure mine can handle up to 3.3GB of RAM; however, when I get home from graduation, I'm taking my laptop to the apple store to make sure. At least before I spend anything that is.

Anyhow, thanks again so much for the kind review. When I was here awhile back I sort of felt very, very amateurish or beginnerish. I thought that now, since I've improved (or at least I think I have heh), it's time to come back and be serious in this community.

I'll let you know what I come up with soon, I've got some plans up my sleeve. Again, thank you.

~SinJim
Check out my latest song called - When the Smoke Clears -
drakonis said 3928 days ago (December 16th, 2008)
hehehe... fun stuff
Of course, what caught me right away was the rolled-tonguing (not sure what you call it, but that sounds provocative, doesn't it?) on the initial trombone at the beginning there... not heard that in music in a while, very cool sound... so, they have that as a sampled brass style? Very good sounding brass. The strings sounded great too, but perhaps a little too loud, I'd back the solo lead violin off a little, and possibly write more chords for the strings (violins and cellos), too much unison. But this has a lot of momentum... great percussion, crystal clear sounds, very nice!
ttfn,
Drakonis

Good luck in the job world... what did you major in, and what kind of work are you looking for?
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SinJimMusic said 3927 days ago (December 17th, 2008)
Re: Drak
Hey, thanks for the comments! The sound you so provocatively describe is a French Horn Crescendo Fllutter. It's pretty sweet and the EastWest pack has so many different effects type sounds on each instrument. That kind of stuff really lets you put some dramatic moments into your songs. It's pretty much awesome. I'll try backing off the lead violin. I think that there's some chords in there for the strings, but maybe I didn't put enough velocity on them to be heard. I'll definitely look into that.

As for the job world, I'm graduating from Virginia Tech with a degree in marketing. While I also have about 2 years experience in Computer Engineering, I didn't like that. I would be looking for a job that involved music; however, now's not the best time to be doing that. At the moment, I'm sort of just looking for a 9 to 5 to give me some money so I can start saving/paying back loans/buying more music stuff. The plan is to work for about 2-4 years and then go back (when the job market bounces back as well) and get a degree in mixing engineering from a place similar to Full Sail. I'd like to run my own studio eventually, and write music for games/movies, but that's a LONG way off.

Anyways, long story short: I though marketing would apply most to a music career because I'm going to have to begin marketing myself as a product out there. I might even be able to skip a couple phases in my plan if things take off, but we'll see. If you know of any jobs let me know *nudge nudge*.

Thanks again for the review!

~SinJim
Check out my latest song called - When the Smoke Clears -
basil81 said 3657 days ago (September 13th, 2009)
Pretty sweet
Must also say you've got an impressive set of software there, I'm jealous...but I do have plenty of RAM though... :P

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