I'm Still The Same

Vic Holman

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Every once in a while I'll run into someone that I've known or worked with over the past 20+ years. And usually I hear "You haven't changed a bit" or "you still look the same". Of course in mind I'm thinking oh I've been through the mill. But my response is usually "Soft lighting". But, when I think about it, I probably haven't changed all that much in a lot of ways.

I wanted this song to feel more like a live take as much as possible. I recorded the music in a afternoon. then added the vocals a few days later. Usually I would cut the lead in, but I thought it sounded interesting and set it up a bit.

Also, I would like to thank Michael 2 for the fake theremin synth settings and tips that I us on the bridge and outro

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Lyrics

I'm Still The Same

she's not a girl who misses much
sometimes she's here sometimes not
she catches all the times you say
please excuse me I need a break
she says she knows me
I don't think so

ch:
I'm still the same
no matter what the world thinks of me
I'm not a sensible man
but I do okay
I'm still the same

stashing dreams in a pillowcase
saving them for a rainy day
lost are so many memories
sometimes they stay sometimes they fade
it doesn't bother me
or so I'm told

ch:
I'm still the same
no matter what the world thinks of me
I'm not a sensible man
but I do okay
I'm still the same

I could be someone else
I could be someone good
I could be myself

my years are not an open book
most of the pages have been torn
it is interesting to take a look
sometimes the pictures are better then the book
could you turn the page
I didn't think so

ch:
I'm still the same
no matter what the world thinks of me
I'm not a sensible man
but I do okay
I'm still the same

Song Stats

Hits: 4371
Comments: 71
Fans: 31
Plays: 203
Downloads: 131

Uploaded: Mar 25, 2009 - 08:23:30 PM
Last Updated: Mar 25, 2009 - 08:23:30 PM Last Played: Mar 19, 2019 - 09:17:22 AM

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Hardware:

iMac, Taylor 410 acoustic, Schector 5 string bass, Gibson SG, Audio Technica condensor mike, presonous firebox, ebow, m-audio keyboard

Software:

Logic Pro 8

Comments

egobandit	egobandit said 3679 days ago (March 25th, 2009)
	I like the tempo when you sing "and so Im told", its complete. Stay the same Vic ! it all we can do! Check out my latest song called They got you now

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	Thanks Tim I'm same as I ever was no matter what I do. Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

Andy-bm	Andy-bm said 3679 days ago (March 25th, 2009)
	Cool mix this song sounds great. Definitely sounds like a band jamming. Love the acoustic/electric blend on the guitars. Thanks for posting this. //Andy

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	Thanks Andy yeah, my goal was to make it live as possible. well as far as DAW can go with one person. So, no punch ins although i did cut out some electric guitar parts Thanks for the listen! Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

Feter	Feter said 3679 days ago (March 25th, 2009)
	I'm Still The Same WO ...man ..you always come back with such inspirational production .. totally a sound came out of the beatlish era ..amazing arrangement for the instruments ...the whole mixing here is outstanding ..kudos ... thnx alot for sharin such gem !!!!! Check out my latest song called Roll with it

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	Thanks Feter it always starts out on a acoustic. when i figure out the chord progression I start hearing in my head the other parts. Makes it fast and easy to put something like this down. Plus, I know my pre-sets for most instruments, that helps a lot Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

Relic67	Relic67 said 3679 days ago (March 25th, 2009)
	applause agree with feter, kind of a beatlesque sound. (the best kind of beatles - a lennon-style song with mccartneyesque bass playing!) sounds great. I like the lyrics too. enjoyed! Check out my latest song called Dead Archive

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	Lennon & McCartney veeeeery intentional, I was almost thinking of it as a "Lost Songs Project" like what was done at macjams last summer I appreciate the listen! Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

guygrooves	guygrooves said 3679 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	I get..... a real Beatles feel with this great song Vic. Peace Guy Check out my latest song called Last Day Here 1998

guygrooves	guygrooves said 3679 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	Oh I guess I should read the other comments before I threepeat Lol Check out my latest song called Last Day Here 1998

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	Thanks Guy who are the Beatles? isn't that the band before Wings? just kidding. when i was figuring out the chord progression I thought I'm going to go with in the style of... who was that again? :-) Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

Monkaton	Monkaton said 3679 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	Great Guitar! Glad to see you used an SG on this one. Great sounding guitar. As always you record the best sounding guitars. I love the lead you play after the line "but I do okay." Great tone and great notes. I also liked the lyrics and the theremin was a cool touch. Check out my latest song called Blue Tie

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	SG I finally bought one a year ago, always wanted one. More versatile then I would of had thought. The theremin came about at the 24th hour, Michael2 was great about how to produce the sound Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

Rebsie

Rebsie said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)

Warm and toasty
I can hear what others mean about the Beatles qualities ... though it's still most distinctively a Vic song. Beautiful tones and harmonics in a crystal clear production. Love the theremin and bass combination.

Your artwork is always a delight. Although I used to be a graphic designer I never mastered digital art to any great extent ... you have an exceptional flair for it. Love that toast!

Check out my latest song called Amongst The Colours (w/ Luna Trick)

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	Thanks Rebsie I always wanted to be the fifth Beatle when I was growing up. Then I wanted to be in Blue Oyster Cult I don't miss the old days of paste-ups, shoot stats and film and all the x-acto knife blade cuts. with graphic software life is a lot less messy Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

blindsidedpoets	blindsidedpoets said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	I'm Still The Same Very 'British Invasion'. I love it! I think it's up to snuff with Oasis as is! Check out my latest song called Meaning Of

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	Thanks much I grew up on all the british invasion's through the years. Beyond a doubt it has all been embedded in my head. Thanks for the listen, I appreciate it. Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

Lennon714

Lennon714 said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)

LOVE it
I was going to throw heaps of White Album accolades your way, then I saw everyone else beat me to it. THEN I thought, "to be compared to one of the best albums by the best album of all time, it needs to be said". I also side with Rebsie that this is still so much a Vic Holman song. Top notch in every conceivable way.

Check out my latest song called Go With What You Know, Do Your Best With the Rest

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	Hey Eric Bingo, White Album. I have been listening to it quite a bit on my ipod. especially the lennon songs. So, it became quite intentional to try something for the fun of it...... well, as best as I could Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

davisamerica	davisamerica said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	lol ... love the pic ! yeah the "beatles" thing some .. a good thing and compliment ... but just you and your talent shinning again on another well done track ... kudos man .. very nice Check out my latest song called ok char2(Vic and Flatrock mix)

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	Thanks Jack Butter and jam with your toast? There are days I feel like that picture. this was a spin for the white album. someday onto side 2 of abby road Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

Nick_Flash	Nick_Flash said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	still the same The performance is a little more loose than usual giving it that jam sound - mission accomplished. Same great Vic H flavor though. The unique voice is what brings me back, the stellar production doesn't hurt either. Check out my latest song called Questioning Authority

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	Thanks Nick hanging loose and going for it was the key. and liberating as well. I set up a scratch acoustic and vocal track. and jumped in from there on the rest of the tracks. I surprised myself that i was able to get the bass and vocals in one go. Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

lavalamp	lavalamp said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	Classic Vic The overall volume is quite hot Vic. Scared the hell out of me. Now, the song is tremendous. You have a certain something to your songs that is so distinctive and can't be taught. Enjoyed. And I'm about to hit the DL button. Thanks. Dave Check out my latest song called The Shallow People

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	Thanks Dave It probably is loud but not peaking. sorry for the scare. I try not to over think about a song. Mostly I really on what feels right to my ears and my personal taste. I had a feeling you might like this one Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

Calchas	Calchas said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	Holy crap! Geez Vic...This is instantly my favorite tune ever by you bro. Well done achieving that Beatles sound. Cool use of e-bow during "I could be someone else," and in the fade out. Love the anthemic lyrics, and your persuasive vocal delivery. Yup. I like everything about this piece. Rock on Vicar! Check out my latest song called HUNTED

Calchas	Calchas said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	PS: Clever art work too! Check out my latest song called HUNTED

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	Thanks Mike I'll have to put the ebow away for a while. I've used on the last 3 or 4 songs. that's what happens with a new toy. I had been listening to the white album on my ipod and really have been paying attention to the production work on them. and figured "I could do something in that vain". Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

Calchas	Calchas said 3675 days ago (March 29th, 2009)
	RE the White Album... ...it SHOWS bro (a GOOD thing). I've been listening a lot to the early classic seven Moody Blues albums. Their influence will be evident on my soon-to be-posted "No Sorrow." There's nothin' quite like classic-rock influences, is there? Check out my latest song called HUNTED

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3675 days ago (March 29th, 2009)
	sorrow sounded great Mike! Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

jiguma

jiguma said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)

You do these so well Vic
Lennon , Harrison and Bowie (and is that Mr Starr on the drums?) all get a nod here, so I guess it has to be good :)

Some lovely chord changes in there and a lot of great guitars. The drums work particularly well here, although that open hat on 2 is a bit repetitious at times.

Very cool post Vic - one of your best.

Neil

Check out my latest song called The Disappearing Man

Vic Holman

Vic Holman said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)

Thanks Neil
we could call this a very, very late to the Lost Song Project from a year ago. The big idea on this was to go at it like a cloned vic band playing live. I do play the drums on 3 separate tracks. Tackling it all on one track would be almost impossible. I would of gone in and fixed some parts on the drums as well as a few other things. This is about as live as I can get for a one man band.

Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

MarkHolbrook	MarkHolbrook said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	Excellent Vic, the mix is spot on. Great song! Check out my latest song called Corn Whiskey

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3678 days ago (March 26th, 2009)
	Thanks Mark I've gotten to a point through trail and error where I now know what every instrument needs to be placed in the field and what plug-ins work the best for each track. So at the final mastering stage it just takes some level adjustments. and crossing my fingers of course. Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

Skean	Skean said 3677 days ago (March 27th, 2009)
	I'm still the same And I always be... Hey Vic, this is way cool as great work...No matter what the world thinks, I'm still the same....Cheers Check out my latest song called A terrible day

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3677 days ago (March 27th, 2009)
	Thanks Kenta we are all the same whether we know it or not..... but. sometimes I have crazy thoughts. Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

Macaudion

Macaudion said 3677 days ago (March 27th, 2009)

It's about me...
...this song is! Though, I would imagine it's about most. Funny thing is, when I first heard the first few bars I thought, "sounds like Vic"... You know, every-now-and-again, you "break outta Vic" mode, but it's still, Vic breaking outta Vic mode and you know what..., it's always pretty much what I'm wanting hear when I show up to "see" what's goin on with... Vic! Thanks for putting yourself out for a listen. Nice production. I like the "not so polished" sound and it worked well on this, I think. I get that you have a polished approach to life and musically, you're clearly, a pretty polished dude... Though, ya know..., you could just be a master at shining things up however, it's all good on this end...

Until your next shine...

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Vic Holman

Vic Holman said 3677 days ago (March 27th, 2009)

Thanks Macca
there's that old saying "no matter where you go, there you are".
Yeah, even if I or we or they try to put on new clothes we all still stand naked at the center of things. The songs in this case. not like in a dream where you show up to work in the buff and everyone is staring.

And of course who doesn't like shiny things? :-)

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FEEL	FEEL said 3677 days ago (March 27th, 2009)
	This is so good It puzzles me how you create, How do you do it? Check out my latest song called A Second Life with Scott Carmicheal

Vic Holman

Vic Holman said 3677 days ago (March 27th, 2009)

Thanks John
almost every song starts out with me kicking back in the evening with a acoustic. I'll just kind noodle around without thinking to much. If I come across something, like a riff and or part of a chord progression, that grabs me, then I will start fleshing it out. Then I might add a different section to break it up.

Then I just practice a couple nights and hear other parts that could go on top of it. Or improvise extra tracks over the basic tracks.

If something doesn't work in the end, it doesn't bother me to throw it out.

Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

garodaro	garodaro said 3677 days ago (March 27th, 2009)
	She's not a girl who missed much Yes, as they all said, very Beatles. In fact, the opening line is the same as in Happiness is a Wam Gun. Intentional reference? Anyway, very much enjoyed the tune! I am having trouble posting this comment, hope it doesn't show fifty times. Check out my latest song called Golden Road, Version 2

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3676 days ago (March 28th, 2009)
	i was wondering ... if someone was going to catch that. very intentional. thanks for the listen and the intended 50 comment posts. :-) Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

lengold	lengold said 3676 days ago (March 28th, 2009)
	Bass playing is a real stand out here for me Vic. I always expect and get wonderful guitars from you but that bass really drives it along. Great lyrical idea for a song. Wonderful musicianship and superb production (love that little touch right at the beginning to make it all sound live). In fact this all sounds great. Cheers Len Check out my latest song called Decent Girl

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3676 days ago (March 28th, 2009)
	Thanks Len I let the guitars take a backstage so the other instruments had there moments. I ran through the song twice with the bass before I hit the record button. So, I was kinda winging it, but it worked out well in the end. Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

thetiler

thetiler said 3676 days ago (March 28th, 2009)

You sure have a NATURAL
rock voice, very intune. A great gift to have when your singing this type of stuff. PLus you have a great since of installation of sounds in rock form. You really have a strong forte in this field of rock endeavor. !

Amazing really ! I kinda think that you would be a great member of the Beatles during their hey day ! I'll bet you really would added alot., That and the kinks too :) !!!!

way to go !

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thetiler	thetiler said 3676 days ago (March 28th, 2009)
	love your high voice technique as well. Not many here can do that high ! Impressed ! Check out my latest song called They Went Underground

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3676 days ago (March 28th, 2009)
	Thanks Bill without the kinks, beatles & stones........ I'm sure a lot of us would of never picked up the guitar. I remember trying to learn beatle songs on those easy to play guitar books. and for some reason they were always in the wrong key Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

	said 3676 days ago (March 28th, 2009)
	Traveling Vicburries You music making machine! Another killer one from you, Vic. . - Harold

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3676 days ago (March 28th, 2009)
	Thanks Harold welcome to the machine. i enjoy the recording process the most. by the time it's done and posted I don't listen to the songs for 3 months or so. Thanks for the listen Harold Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

michael2

michael2 said 3676 days ago (March 29th, 2009)

excellent
loved this one, that guitar sounds great. really perfect chord changes. the theremin is awesome too. funny, the first time it came in, almost reminded me of claptons neck position tone in Cream. next time you do one of these
Beatles-ey numbers, can i please do something? backups? sweep the studio floor? get coffee? anything.

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Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3675 days ago (March 29th, 2009)
	Thanks Michael I'm sure we can do something better then sweeping the floor or fetching coffee. When I have something... I'm sure you can make it even more beatles-ey then the beatles-sy that I put into it. Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

mowguy3	mowguy3 said 3675 days ago (March 29th, 2009)
	I hear the Lennon fuzz guitar and a Abby Road tone. Probably not what you were trying to do, but ya did it well. Killer track like always. Glad your still the same. Thanks for the listen and D.L., Russ Check out my latest song called What Would That Make Me?

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3675 days ago (March 29th, 2009)
	Thanks Russ the fuzz tone is intentional, I have a setting that I did up on my digitech gnx2 pedal board for that tone, so I'm glad you caught that. Thanks for the listen Russ Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

Bob Rodgers	Bob Rodgers said 3675 days ago (March 29th, 2009)
	I love this, excellent song! Another great track Vic and a big Beatle sound here, great guitars as always and a superb production. A great listen and very much enjoyed! Bob Check out my latest song called The Lonely Man

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3674 days ago (March 30th, 2009)
	Hey Bob I've been listening to the white album a bit on the ipod. and started thinking, I could probably try something in that stye. it's kinda close. Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

tempie

tempie said 3674 days ago (March 30th, 2009)

not a sensible man but I do ok and i'm not a fish. or whatever.
great line. my guess is that 99% of the people (men/women) posting here fall into that category, otherwise they wouldn't be spending so much time on an enterprise appreciated by so few.

Anyway your chord choices - how to explain...if my pop sensibilities were a fish, then your chords would be like a net...sometimes your chords pull me out of the water and I gasp for air and just when i think i'm going to die you put me back in the water. Wow. That is the worst analogy ever. That is just shit. What I mean is that you go off into prog territory and I cringe because I am NOT a prog guy and then you run right back into some sweet pop stuff and then you veer off into the weeds again but then right back to the pop etc. I'm always exhausted by the end of your songs lol. But in a good way, a challenging of perceptions way. Obviously I like it, because i keep coming back. But then i'm not a sensible man...

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Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3674 days ago (March 30th, 2009)
	it's a bad halibut I have of course I'm going to go along on a song like just a normal drive, but a squirrel jumps out in front of the car and by instinct I do a quick dodge and then return to normal operation like nothing happened. I do songs like I drive.. and just hoping to avoid a trainwreck Thanks dude Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

Joe Brady	Joe Brady said 3674 days ago (March 30th, 2009)
	ha, ha, u must still have your hair! Rage against the machine, never let them define you Vic. Great guitars as I've come to expect. I like the bass too..hmm, tasty. The mix is excellent and the vocal really rocks (usual). This tune has great writing(lyrics), great music, and great perfomance. Cheers, Joe Check out my latest song called Long Way From Denver

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3674 days ago (March 30th, 2009)
	Thanks Joe the hair is thinning but has yet to show any gray. It must be my innocent charm that everyone remembers. thanks again for the listen, Joe. Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

five_extra_arms	five_extra_arms said 3673 days ago (March 31st, 2009)
	Toasty Cinnamon and sugar toasty. DL'd! Check out my latest song called Draw

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3672 days ago (April 1st, 2009)
	Mmmmm Cinnamon Toast Crunch! Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

LunaTrick	LunaTrick said 3673 days ago (March 31st, 2009)
	Great one Vic... Just got back -first listen -great stuff!~ Check out my latest song called Luna Gypsy Heart II (Eternal Firelight)

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3672 days ago (April 1st, 2009)
	Thanks Daniel good to see you back. must of been hard to come back to cold weather. Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

rsorensen	rsorensen said 3672 days ago (April 1st, 2009)
	classic VH this one's all you, man. you have a dark beatles kind of vibe i really like. great guitars Check out my latest song called Again

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3672 days ago (April 1st, 2009)
	Thanks Ridd every kid back in the day wished they were a fifth beatle. they were or are a great learning source on creating songs. Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

Trillian

Trillian said 3670 days ago (April 3rd, 2009)

We can never really know another person completely.
Sometimes it's hard to know ourselves - yet we beat on - boats against the current (as F. Scott Fitzgerald put it...) To Thine Own Self Be True - always a good bit of wisdom = contentment with oneself. That and a few deep cleansing breaths, and counting to a hundred in Om 's - not ohms. : ) And they do say a picture is worth a thousand words - also they say actions speak louder than words. Too many freakin' cliches. : )

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3670 days ago (April 3rd, 2009)
	It's funny how the old saying goes... "the more things change the more they stay the same". I've gotten to the point in my life that I don't worry much 'cause it always works out. you just do what you know what works. I'll let others fret..... me, I sleep real good at nights. :) Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

Trillian	Trillian said 3670 days ago (April 3rd, 2009)
	Post Script.... Love the toast graphic. : )

Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3670 days ago (April 3rd, 2009)
	Now that I think about it there should be five... another one for friday Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

bud

bud said 3665 days ago (April 8th, 2009)

Funny thing Vic
When the song started I thought it was a redo of something you posted before. "Still the Same" lol. Then I got into the tune and your notes and lyrics and dug where this is coming from. I must say that I really like this "more live" sound you have going on here. This is classic Vic with the benefit of all the ways you've improved over the years. Maybe it's more like "essential Vic". Excellent.

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Vic Holman	Vic Holman said 3664 days ago (April 9th, 2009)
	Thanks Kevin If I could clone myself several times over and played live this is what it would sound like. of course given a good day and sound man. sometimes i think i could be repeating myself. ;) Check out my latest song called Roland Is Just A Machine

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