Sunrise Song

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Welcome back kids!

Our challenge for today is....VOICES!!!

I wanted to learn how Garageband voice samples worked and what I can do with them. This is just a short and simple little song that was supposed to be MUCH longer, but...lol...I found it extremely frustrating to work with these voices. There were aah's and hmmm's that I TRIED to get my choir to sing, but those have all been thrown out and we are sticking to just ooh's. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to get a choir to sing a good "AAH"???

Thanks to kissmekate and magnatone for their ears and opinions. And for telling me to "STOP MESSING WITH THE CHOIR AND JUST POST THE DAMN SONG!"

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Uploaded: Apr 26, 2009 - 06:22:55 PM
Last Updated: Apr 26, 2009 - 09:50:58 PM Last Played: Jan 03, 2019 - 03:53:54 AM

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keyboard and laptop

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garageband and um...the symphony jam pack and the world instruments one, i think

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magnatone

magnatone said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)

Sunrise Song
YEAH!!! you posted the damned song!! LOL - seriously, i LOVE this (as you know). i'm still slightly mourning the "AAH's", which imho were excellent, but there was no convincing you of that, and as we often say to each other in times like that "well, it's your song!" so, the "OOH's" have it, and they are BEAUTIFUL. as i commented to you recently, you've now thrown down the gauntlet for GB choir quality - sigh - thanks a lot! your achievement here is very notable, not just for squeezing every ounce of great sound out of your choir, but for the general way this song goes together. i LOVE that cool guitar sound you worked out, and really love how it comes back in at the end of the song, to take us out. lovely use of ehorn and flute, the build is sublimely kassia, and let it be said in front of god and MJ, i LOVE THE FADE! Great work shay!

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kassia	kassia said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)
	lol thanks karen. maybe i'll do a remix with some aahs in it just for you. Check out my latest song called Greensleeves

KissMeKate	KissMeKate said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)
	So fun watching you explore And everything you do sounds great, even the stuff that you grumble and harrumph through. :)

kassia	kassia said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)
	kate um...i only grumbled and harrumphed a little. Check out my latest song called Greensleeves

LunaTrick	LunaTrick said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)
	Ooohhh Ahhhh.... nice experiment... I particularly like the woodwinds behind the choir..... very pastoral on the edge of a guilded morning. Keep doing what you do Shay! Check out my latest song called Luna Gypsy Heart II (Eternal Firelight)

kassia

kassia said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)

daniel
i've been doing a lot of what i do lately - thanks to everyone like you who comes by for a listen to each song! i really fought against mixing the woodwinds with the choir for some reason. tried pretty much every other instrument in my arsenal and wasn't happy with anything. I finally relented and threw the ehorn and flute in there and suddenly all was right with the world. Glad you liked this little experimental ditty!

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Boundless	Boundless said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)
	Beautiful mix Lol. I don't think a choir would have any problem going 'aaaaah' yet jam-packs. . . well, are jam-packs ! And sam^pled voices have a way to. . . or rather not to. . . This said, good work. Thanks ! Check out my latest song called Weather or Not - Jim Bouchard's Collab

kassia

kassia said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)

boundless
in the process of doing this song i figured out all the ways to and not to with the jam packs...lol...i just didn't like all of them so I threw some out and kept others. I'm glad you liked the mix - I always spend quite a bit of time on getting everything balanced and sounding as good as I can. Thanks for stopping by for a listen and leaving your thoughts!

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Feter	Feter said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)
	Sunrise Song Hmmmmmmm ... this is fascinating ...loved the feel ..you always succeed to bring a wonderful spirited arrangement to your sweet themes ... loved the conversations between instruments you chose here ...I can see how large the sound with the choir ...certainly left me sayin AHHH ... ;-) good job Shay ...thnx alot for the gem !!! Check out my latest song called Roll with it

kassia	kassia said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)
	Feter what a wonderful comment! "spirited arrangement" I really tried with the percussion to make this have gentle movement and energy. i'm glad that worked for you. thanks feter! Check out my latest song called Greensleeves

mtransue	mtransue said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)
	nice Great piece of music. I quite like the choir's ooh rather than ahh, even if that was what you were trying for. Very nice. Did you write the piano part? Check out my latest song called Sinking Deep

kassia	kassia said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)
	mtransue hey thanks for coming by for a listen! I did write the piano part - and everything else. I play the piano, so recorded that part with my digital piano. everything else I write into garageband. thanks for your kind words! Check out my latest song called Greensleeves

Char	Char said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)
	Wow, you have an orchestra and a choir in your spare room. Elegant piano, sweetheart. If you ever want real voices, there are a bunch of us here who are used to doing choral work because of Jack's Big Finish. I thought we did great with oohs, ahhs and everything in between. Thanks, this is lovely. Check out my latest song called Bound, v2. w Music by Dirigent

kassia	kassia said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)
	char the choir has been banished to the shed until they can learn their aahs. I have absolutely no idea how I would deal with a bunch of real voices when I can't even whip these little midi choirs into shape. But thanks for the very generous offer! And thank you, as always, for your very sweet words. Check out my latest song called Greensleeves

Sigmund

Sigmund said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)

Sunrise
You are fitting quite nicely into the new age genre, Shay. Very nice little crescendo leading up to the percussion, and the oohs. The woodwinds add nice variation to your soundscape. I really like how well you are able to match your instruments to the sound, and how you share them accross the melody - clarinet plays this section, the flute plays that portion - very cool. I have got to get myself a copy of that world music jampack. In this case the percussion gives your music a very distinctive flair which fits perfectly with your style. Very nice, if not short, piece of work...well done and thank you Shay for sharing your work with us!

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kassia

kassia said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)

sigmund
After reading your comment I went and changed the genre to New Age. When I posted this i had absolutely no idea where to put it. It's weird. I'm a child of the 80's so New Age pianists were a huge influence on me growing up. But now-a-days I have no idea really what the definition of that genre is. Or what the definition of any genre is, for that matter. But who cares?? I had a lot of fun doing the percussion on this one. I really wanted it to give the piece some life and energy, a gentle movement to carry those oohs along. sigh...the aahs would have helped do that nicely, but...well...no use crying over spilled milk. the choir is what they is, um, are. yeah...anyway....thanks for coming by and listening and sharing always appreciated thoughts!

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paul f. page	paul f. page said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)
	Nice... ...voices/choir are just fine, Shay. You have handled them well and I suspect this is about a good as they are going to get with the JamPac... Peace. Paul Check out my latest song called Caprice

kassia	kassia said 3586 days ago (April 28th, 2009)
	Paul Thanks! I suspect, given my level of frustration with these voices, that this is as good as I will get them to sound...lol...thank you for listening and sharing your thoughts. Check out my latest song called Greensleeves

orcsong	orcsong said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)
	I love the way you bookend this piece. You start out simply and a little wistful, get very lush and the close simply again. Very pretty. It's a keeper. Check out my latest song called Quiet Revolutions

kassia	kassia said 3586 days ago (April 28th, 2009)
	orcsong I have a tendency to end my songs the way I start them, coming around full circle. I don't really know where I picked that up, but it happens a lot. I'm really glad to hear that it worked for you on this piece. thank you very much for listening and leaving such kind words. Check out my latest song called Greensleeves

gail60

gail60 said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)

My oh my....girl
Shay you are amazing to me. Your talent continues to blow me away and I love this song, as I do ALL of your music!!! Fantastic job here. I love the variety and the drums and the ahhs!! :) I totally agree with Kissmekate and Magnatone. They are soo right...This needed to be posted as it is! Thank you for listening to them. People will enjoy this one alot. Thanks so much.

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kassia	kassia said 3586 days ago (April 28th, 2009)
	oh gail talk about amazing. YOU are amazing! and that makes me appreciate your sweet words even more. Thank you for making me smile. Check out my latest song called Greensleeves

MarkHolbrook	MarkHolbrook said 3587 days ago (April 26th, 2009)
	I really like the melody in this! Excellent! I'm sure you'll whip that choir into place when the time is right. Check out my latest song called Corn Whiskey

kassia

kassia said 3586 days ago (April 28th, 2009)

mark
i've sent the choir to time-out. I like the melody a lot too! a funny thing about the way I compose - melody is sort of an afterthought. i usually come up with some basic chord structure and kind of throw in a psuedo-melody and then halfway through the composing process i realize - oh wait! i need to actually write a melody! thanks for the listen! i'm glad you liked it.

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Skean	Skean said 3586 days ago (April 27th, 2009)
	Sweet I wish I could play piano like you, guess what fun I should have with all the synths and so on. I'm glad you experimenting with GB, this is sweet as delightful... Thanks for sharing this lovely song. Check out my latest song called Can You Hear Me?

kassia	kassia said 3586 days ago (April 28th, 2009)
	kenta and i wish i could do all the amazing stuff you do with those synths and drums and guitar! thanks for your sweet words, kenta. i really appreciate you coming by. Check out my latest song called Greensleeves

davisamerica

davisamerica said 3586 days ago (April 27th, 2009)

arrrggghhh!!!!
Why isn't my email notification working?? 3rd lsten thru [ will download .. thanks] and I do believe Paul is correct. You have done well with the JP voices .. about as good as any one could have and I know how much work that involved... kudos. The backing orch is gentle and fits across the stage wonderfully and the wood winds, as daniel
said, really work. The guitar I assuming is Midi Keys?? ... if so ... you managed to keep it believable as a guitar which for me is hard to accomplish. All in all ... will now download and say you rock on this one Shay.

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kassia	kassia said 3586 days ago (April 28th, 2009)
	mr. jack you rock too, sir. the guitar is actually all written into GB by hand, not played on the keyboard. the whole point of these little experiments is for me to just keep learning, and i certainly learned a lot with this one. i'm glad it all came together into a piece that sounds good to you. thank you for your very sweet words jack. Check out my latest song called Greensleeves

drakonis

drakonis said 3586 days ago (April 27th, 2009)

They said "POST IT"
"Enya posted it, good for ya!" :-) This has a little bit of Enya-vibe, but mostly you. There are tricks to making the choir sound more natural... and maybe I can send you some tricks, and you can let the "Aahs" out in the sequel-piece?

This is elegant and calming, like the sunrise. I like the initial shaker starting things off, very nice touch.

ttfn,
Drakonis

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kassia	kassia said 3586 days ago (April 28th, 2009)
	eduard i'm surprised more of my stuff doesn't have a little bit of an enya-vibe since she was one of my main influences growing up. i learned a few tricks to use with that tricky choir through trial and error, but I'm always very open to learning more so send away! thanks for sharing your thoughts and your kind words mr. dragon. Check out my latest song called Greensleeves

awigze	awigze said 3586 days ago (April 27th, 2009)
	what a nice surprise This is great- this really goes somewhere... love the flow, the percussion - the changeups in the notation... nice messin with the choir!!!! A Check out my latest song called If You Can Hang On by Outtaorbit

kassia	kassia said 3586 days ago (April 28th, 2009)
	andy thank you! what a great comment from you. as i said in my song notes, i really intended for this to be a much longer piece, and these themes to be interspersed and developed throughout. i'm glad it works as a short piece as well. maybe someday i'll get inspired to go back and see how i can extend it. thank you for stopping by! Check out my latest song called Greensleeves

Moviz	Moviz said 3586 days ago (April 27th, 2009)
	All I can say is "Oooooh!, this is lovely", beautiful melody and choice of instruments etc. cheers M Check out my latest song called We'll Meet Again

kassia	kassia said 3586 days ago (April 28th, 2009)
	moviz lol...oooooh, thank you! thank you very much for the listen and your nice comment. Check out my latest song called Greensleeves

Reinholt56

Reinholt56 said 3586 days ago (April 27th, 2009)

Hi Shay.......
This is a feel-good song and it certainly made me feel good whilst listening.... I forgot what I was doing as I listened and then the world came back and I thought 'Oh!!'. Still don't know what I was doing, maybe just lost in thought whilst reading your description and your choir problem.

Maybe you could use the 'Ahh' as a stepping stone to another piece, but in a way that the arrangement fits around the Ahhs. Do they sound OK when sustained?? If they do how could you express or emphasize this with music?? Trigger the vocal loops with the bass or a beat count, or even listen to the 'Ahh' and imagine what the backing could be to this simple vocal lead. Then record the music you heard and listen to how it now sounds with the vocal.

I'll shut up now.

Take care.

Paul

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kassia	kassia said 3586 days ago (April 28th, 2009)
	Paul these are EXCELLENT thoughts! if i ever get the energy to tackle the choirs again, i will definitely keep all of this in mind. I'm glad this made you feel good and thank you very much for sharing your thoughts with me. have you remembered what you were doing? Check out my latest song called Greensleeves

I.G.M.

I.G.M. said 3586 days ago (April 27th, 2009)

well, yes
the fade is alright, but you leave us alone with wanting more, which is not too bad! :9)
it`s a very nice tune, so full of warm feelings and hope...

I know that it is difficult to find sounds that work well with such a piece of music. that`s one of the reasons why I will quit making "real" music. :o)
just kiddin` , I`m highly addicted...

Ingo

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kassia	kassia said 3586 days ago (April 28th, 2009)
	ingo we are all highly addicted. i think that's why we are here! thank you for coming by for a listen and for leaving such a great comment. maybe someday there will be more! Check out my latest song called Greensleeves

Ex_Silentio	Ex_Silentio said 3586 days ago (April 28th, 2009)
	Persnickety choirs. I may have misspelled that ... anyway ... I hope you will do more with the voices. I need lessons. I have major problems with using the EXSP24 voices. This is a beautiful composition and fine fine (that's two "fine"s) playing. Check out my latest song called Submerged

kassia

kassia said 3586 days ago (April 28th, 2009)

ex silentio
what a pleasure to see you here! persnickety is right! i'll have to store up some energy before deciding to wrestle with the choir again, but i'm sure i'll get around to it someday. and i would LOVE to get some lessons in creating great ambient soundscapes from you. thank you very much for coming by for a listen and leaving such a great comment.

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lavalamp	lavalamp said 3585 days ago (April 28th, 2009)
	mellow The "Ahh"s were great lol- Excellent job Shay. Check out my latest song called The Shallow People

RoughRooster	RoughRooster said 3585 days ago (April 28th, 2009)
	Wow! Just beautiful Shay! Really love the choir, what a great sound. This is magnificent and this is superb and this is.........yes I love it, all of it! Check out my latest song called Lady Grey

thoddi	thoddi said 3584 days ago (April 29th, 2009)
	Beautiful What a nice and calm mood you've created. It's just beautiful:) Check out my latest song called The King has left

lengold	lengold said 3584 days ago (April 29th, 2009)
	You definitely have a knack with very restful and beautiful pieces - this is lovely. I think you have done a great job with the voices - they compliment without overpowering. Cheers Len Check out my latest song called Decent Girl

Doug Somers

Doug Somers said 3584 days ago (April 29th, 2009)

Flowing and restorative music
This is truly beautiful, and the swell with the strings reminds me of the sun coming from behind a cloud. There is a tenderness with how you have orchestrated this that comes through in the delicacy of your choices. I too am working with choirs and have not cracked the secret code (I just got the upgrade for the PLAY version of EWQL Symphonic Choirs and am keen to try it out). I think you've set the bar very high indeed on this piece. Thanks for the inspiration!

Be well,
Doug

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loricunningham	loricunningham said 3584 days ago (April 29th, 2009)
	Stunning This is wonderful! Different than the other tracks you've been putting out lately. There's nothing wrong with that! Just beautiful!

egobandit	egobandit said 3584 days ago (April 29th, 2009)
	Again where have I been, encaptivating there is much to gleaned from this! a true work of art thanks! Check out my latest song called No more demands

Doadars Uncle	Doadars Uncle said 3583 days ago (April 30th, 2009)
	Tapestry Nice weave. My favorite areas are the changes. I would love to hear more! I did like the voices! Check out my latest song called Don't Leave (remix)

guygrooves	guygrooves said 3583 days ago (April 30th, 2009)
	Very cool and uplifting piece This is a very enjoyable piece of music. I wish I knew how to get you the AHH you want, but I don't. I'm not sure it needs it though, this is truly an uplifting sound and progression you have. Very aptly titled. Peace Guy Check out my latest song called Last Day Here 1998

mowguy3	mowguy3 said 3581 days ago (May 2nd, 2009)
	Let me thank you for all the trouble you went through with the AAH's. You still came up with another full, rich and touching track. Thank you again. Check out my latest song called What Would That Make Me?

Roxylee	Roxylee said 3581 days ago (May 2nd, 2009)
	Heehee If i ever get the voices jampack, I'll immediately think of you. I think you did a great job.:-) Check out my latest song called Emma, by davisamerica

guitapick	guitapick said 3580 days ago (May 3rd, 2009)
	~ Beautiful tune... Check out my latest song called 'Cuz I Can

SISTERS	SISTERS said 3579 days ago (May 4th, 2009)
	swells i love the beautiful swelling of the strings - they get me right where i live! excellent job of beating your choir into submission, 8) anne Check out my latest song called UNIVERSAL SONG w Astronomusic & 24 Soloists

Calchas	Calchas said 3578 days ago (May 5th, 2009)
	ooooooooh.... Wow! Very nice Shay. Just got out of bed. This is perfect morning music! Sampled voices are tricksy...but this sounds OK to me. Beautiful orchestration. Be well friend! Check out my latest song called STARLIGHT

edpdx	edpdx said 3563 days ago (May 20th, 2009)
	Just the perfect blend of instruments and pacing of melodies. I love this! edpdx Check out my latest song called Tiny Dreams

Schello	Schello said 3550 days ago (June 2nd, 2009)
	io non so che dire tutto perfetto..melodia, sound..beh..complimenti davvero GRANDE KASSIA! Check out my latest song called Snozz'en (Cronik Mix)

Drew Kopr	Drew Kopr said 3544 days ago (June 8th, 2009)
	Works! Great stuff! Very nice. I thoroughly enjoyed this music! Check out my latest song called IfIWereHigh

echojericho	echojericho said 3510 days ago (July 12th, 2009)
	Magnificent Incredibly lush audible textures, if notes could paint a story I would love to see and feel the sunrise in the way you did when you composed this. ^_^ Check out my latest song called Uphon

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