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Ok. SO I grabbed the original tracks off my Micro BR and then managed to export the drum track out by recording it to a blank virtual track.
I've then assembled the 5 tracks in GB '09, adding some compression, reverb and EQ to the tracks individually and then using one of the master track presets given it a brighter overall feel.

I think I'm going to take Relic67's advice and leave this as it is: a rough little slice of indie
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Lyrics
Looking at the things that you say
Nothing matters
It's all in the way
Wondering how we got ourselves here
Think I'll go
Drink another beer

Do you know what it's like
What it's like
To be on the outside of us?

Do you how it feels
How it feels to be on the outside of us?

Wondering if you'll come back again
Hoping that you've made up your mind

I'm looking out
Staring at the rain
I don't think I can take the pain

Do you know how it feels
How it feels
To be on the outside of us?

Do you know what it's like
What it's like
To be on the outside of us?
Song Stats
Hits: 2813
Comments: 33
Fans: 12
Plays: 57
Downloads: 74
Votes: 1
Uploaded: Jun 11, 2009 - 05:01:17 AM
Last Updated: Feb 23, 2010 - 10:49:06 AM Last Played: Dec 22, 2018 - 01:50:40 AM
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Hardware:
Boss Micro BR
Software:
GB '09 (for fettling)
Comments
tempie said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
drink another beer
hey dude you know as I listen to your tunes I've heard you often find a "sound" you like and try to mimic it - the stadium, U2 type stuff, the Tweedy stuff, the J&MC style stuff, but it seems to me with this one that you're combining everything into your own style and it sounds great. Good example of that here is the J&MC style solo that blows right into an Edge type solo which then dissolves into a more J. Mascis type thing. Very cool. Same could be said for your singing style - from a combination of all those other styles you've emerged with a cool smokey indie kind of vocal style that I can see really coming into its own in future tunes. You're on the move and I dig the direction.

also love that "what it feels like outside of us" line, very witty.
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PaddyNavinCaryatid said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
On the move
... cheers Craig. I kinda felt that new direction as this came together. I wish I could say it was a painstaking process but it all kinda happened in 30 minutes. The solo came about as a conscious decision to move away from my one string J&MC solos.
I've resisted the temptation to do much to this. I was anticipating putting an acoustic in, doubling the rhythm guitar, backing vox etc but I kinda love this song as it is now. It represents that kinda pure garage band 4 track ethos that I have tended to overlook since discovering Logic.
Glad you liked it.
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five_extra_arms said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
Outside
I listened to the scratch track version yesterday and was really envious of your rich guitar sound from the first chord.

I hear what Craig is saying about your sound coming into it's own. He's right. And good for you for taking Relic's advise as well.

It's good to see we all listen with the same ears.

And by the way, this is my favorite of your vocal performances. Really dynamite.

Bob
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PaddyNavinCaryatid said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
Chord envy?
Thanks Bob. This one is taking on a life of its own. Seems the sound is crystalising. I'm sure the vox is due to the really bad throat infection I've had for the past 4 weeks!

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davisamerica said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
very
cool ... really nice tune
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PaddyNavinCaryatid said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
Tune..
... yeah I love a good tune. I always think a decent melody can hide a multitude of technical sins!
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MarkHolbrook said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
Good sound for sure
Enjoyable tune... Has a live sound!
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PaddyNavinCaryatid said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
Live....
... Mark yeah the sound is kinda live. The main reason behind this is that I played the entire song, rather than segments as I do with my GB and Logic compositions. I like the subtle differences between the guitar and bass parts in different areas of the song. Thanks for listening
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magnatone said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
Outside
I'm SO glad you posted in the forum about this song. great job - i love your sound, and i will be humming this all day!
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PaddyNavinCaryatid said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
Humming...
... possibly the bet compliment ever is that you're humming my song. Thanks so much. Glad you enjoyed.
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Bob6stringer said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
Fave aspect: guitar blend
Love thelittle bit of "sandpaper" you leave in your guitar here; no need to use fine steel wool on it... some things shine better without too much polish. My preference in the mix would be to lower the drums by a couple/few DBs to make the guitar-vox combo a little more prominent. But that's a minor point. I have to compliment you on mixing-in the lead solo, a very sweet and in-the-pocket steel blend to take us out.
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PaddyNavinCaryatid said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
Sandpaper...
... I love that analogy - sandpaper/steel wool. I'll never be a producer as I haven't the patience to apply polish in layers. I'm more of a "that'll do the job" guy. On this occasion it seems to have worked out for the best.
I see your point on the drums, but I'm a sucker for big crashing rhythm.
Glad you liked the lead. It's the one aspect I spent time on getting just right in production terms.
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guygrooves said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
Bro...
That guitar is sure sounding good now. Great song a real indie feel to it.
Peace
Guy
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PaddyNavinCaryatid said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
The One!
Compliments from the writer of "The One" always gratefully accepted. It's a new guitar Guy, not the old strat with the bad intonation. This is the lovely Ibanez I got at Christmas. It has great tone, awesome sustain and gets new strings every 4 weeks regardless of how much play time it's had.
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Moviz said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
excellent
excellent performance all round on this one and top vocal. Sounds like you found your own sound in there and it sounds great, regards M
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PaddyNavinCaryatid said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
Cheers
... yeah I'm starting to see how this sound can be developed. The nice thing about it is its simplicity. Happy you enjoyed it. Thanks for stopping by.
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Feter said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
Outside
Rough ? not sure ..this so tight my friend ..loved the whole feel for this
song ...good guitar sound ...and singing as well ...good job with this spirited
song ...thnx alot for sharin !!!!
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PaddyNavinCaryatid said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
Feter Feter Everywhere
..man I don't know how you get time to stop by nearly EVERYONE's songs but I'm sure glad you do. You are a constant inspiration to us all man. Thanks for your kind words.
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Calchas said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
Leave this as is!
Rough works in this case Paddy! Cool guitar sounds and the drums sound so natural.

Splendid indie offering!

Enjoyed very much bro!

Be well!
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PaddyNavinCaryatid said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
It's hard to believe it...
... but those drums are from the Micro BR's built in pattern editor. Very nice they are too! Compliments from you are always welcome Michael.
Be well my friend.
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mowguy3 said 3659 days ago (June 11th, 2009)
Great track
Start to finish. Well done.
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PaddyNavinCaryatid said 3651 days ago (June 19th, 2009)
Thanks man...
... i'm kinda caught out by how much people like this. Thanks for listening
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Relic67 said 3658 days ago (June 12th, 2009)
I like!
I liked the first version and I like this one too!
It's just a really good song with great guitar and singing.
A real gem.


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PaddyNavinCaryatid said 3656 days ago (June 14th, 2009)
Gem ...
... gee thanks. I'm amazed at how well this has gone over. I think the change of location really helped my creative process.
Thanks for your kind words man.
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lengold said 3656 days ago (June 14th, 2009)
Great song
and performance.
Cheers
Len

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PaddyNavinCaryatid said 3656 days ago (June 14th, 2009)
Performance
... yeah performance is the key word here as unlike most of my stuff this is a straight play through rather then segments stitched together.
Thanks Len, your feedback is always greatly appreciated.
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chronologic said 3656 days ago (June 14th, 2009)
open
I dig the open sound. I get the Dinosaur Jr. Vibe here too, and it is good. Honestly I agree totally that any more work on this can probably only hurt it.
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PaddyNavinCaryatid said 3656 days ago (June 14th, 2009)
Wasn't even trying...
... you know when I TRIED to do Dinosaur Jr. it didn't work! Now with this it seems people are getting that vibe, probably 'cos I had no intention and just put out what I was feeling.
I won't be touching this for sure. I think it stands as my most complete to date. Funny as it's had barely any "production" at all.
Cheers.
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damiengh said 3653 days ago (June 17th, 2009)
good tune
Simplicity makes for a great tune.

Good lyrics of the frustration of a painful relationship end.
Good form - familiar pattern that one can cling too
Good Guitar sounds to ring out that pain.
Good medicine to handle it with --- Beer (make mine a Guinness)

Nice work mate.

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PaddyNavinCaryatid said 3651 days ago (June 19th, 2009)
Simplicity...
... well for me simplicity is a necessity as I'm untrained and have only the most basic of guitar and production skills. The lyrics came in about 5 minutes, which is usual for me. I don't pore over words, when I do they lose something.
Glad you enjoyed.
Cheers
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Pete_NB said 3653 days ago (June 17th, 2009)
True Grit
Great sounds and vibe. Puts me in mind of some of our Canadian indie rockers. Vocals are calm, collected and confident. Great!
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PaddyNavinCaryatid said 3651 days ago (June 19th, 2009)
Canadian Indie Rockers
... thanks for the kind words. I'm so glad people are getting this song.
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Transcontinentals said 3294 days ago (June 11th, 2010)
Avast ye
.. we're digging this, like we dig for buried treasure.
Aaar!
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