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ic42

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This piece of music started with an unusual thought... what if I played a chord (a triad), and then played a new chord by changing only one of the 3 notes, leaving the other two the same. Then I repeat this (change just one other note) to make the next chord, etc. Could I come up with a pleasing chord sequence this way? And could I wind up at the end, where one more note-movement would put me back at the beginning, so I can repeat?

After a number of attempts that made pretty patterns on paper but horrible sounds in my ear, I decided to start over. I chose a root key (F), and tried to get from D minor to A minor, and that helped a lot. I eventually wound up with the following interesting chord sequence. For some reason, the sequence sounded a little better with the Am chord held/repeated in bars 3-4, so you see no change there.
















sequence1

The real motivation I had behind this experiment was this: If two of the notes stayed the same into the next bar, why not tie them together, creating a sliding/interlocking overlap in the music. I was thinking (and hoping) that this overlapping continuity would “blur the lines” between bars, and possibly create an interesting “ambient music” effect.

Looking at the next figure, I have repeated the sequence once, and have tied the notes together, so you can now see the overlapping step-motion more clearly, and can see how it folds back at bar 7 for the repeat.

sequence1bars

As I was experimenting with this somber piece and wondering what could possibly be added to give a main melody, Andy Wigzell sent me a note asking if we could work together on a piece specifically written to feature his sax playing. We ran off together and collaborated, and we created a "Sax and Orchestra" piece here. Please feel free to also visit the Behind-theScenes tour where I describe how the sequence experiment progressed.

And now I have returned to finish the original slippery ambient synthesizer idea, and have posted the finished experiment here. I hope you enjoy this dark slow journey into the "sequence 3 dimension." As always, critical feedback is welcomed and encouraged. Special thanks to Kassia for doing a final sanity-check before I posted this.
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Uploaded: Apr 18, 2010 - 12:38:10 PM
Last Updated: Apr 18, 2010 - 12:41:40 PM Last Played: May 30, 2019 - 10:20:27 AM
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WharmtonRise said 3349 days ago (April 18th, 2010)
Heh
Shay is very useful for those 'sanity checks'. Soon she'll be asking for checks for the checks. Anyway, this is just great. Sound choices are excellent. I'm sure I hear an organ or at least a sound made from an organ sample. Organ sounds make some of the best ambient music. Bells are always good but this wouldn't be an Icy piece without the bells. Mix is great. Length is perfect. Very good Mr Eduard.
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
check please
There is reciprocation. Although I believe I owe her some chocolate now.

Yes, an affected organ added great character here, and the bells, there must be something to ring true.

Thank you for letting me know about the instrument choices and mix. After listening to the bells for awhile, I could no longer tell. :-)
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ktb said 3349 days ago (April 18th, 2010)
expambient
an excellent descriptor. I liked it. There were some ever so subtle changes in the synths, or perhaps that was register changes as the chord climbed upward (or maybe both) that I was enjoying to no end. A good ambient piece really jump starts the imagination and this one gave me a good rush.
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
detecting the changes
you perceived correctly, there are multiple tracks of the same note sequences, some an octave apart, and I sometimes gently morph between the tracks for added interest. The hope is to take your mind on a journey... a success here!
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awigze said 3349 days ago (April 18th, 2010)
Shanity
good call. I only vaguely recognize it as the tune we worked on. I think this direction is probably what you were ultimately thinking and I am so glad I could hitch along for the ride. Maybe this can be another Ember-like work. Thanks for the heads up. Blessings.
Andy
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
shayme on you
an amazingly talented and helpful friend, Shay. As are you. Thank you for adding such class to your version. And this version kept reminding me to finish it too. They seem to have minds and wills of their own. Thank you for your interest in this, we must collaborate again soon.
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Gaylen75 said 3349 days ago (April 18th, 2010)
Mad Science
I think I know the inspirational twinge that gets you going on these peices. I "as an artist" sometimes attempt a sculpture with simular beginings, although I end up with a mess or a corkscrew. You make pretty.
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
ic42 laboratory floor
if you only saw the musical corkscrews that litter the lab here. At least you get burnable wood shavings.

Thank you for listening and finding it pretty. That was the intent. I bet that a Gaylen voice on an ic42 tune would be really stunning, don't you think? We must think about that, OK?
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Demeter7 said 3349 days ago (April 18th, 2010)
At least
you come up with listenable tinkly pieces based on your thought experiments. It is either gift or talent. I see you standing at the top of a wind swept ridge as a gale wind like the beating of wings swoops past you towards the rising sun. But you aren't toppled; just rustled a might. Yeah! :)
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
storytelling talent
I like stories, and try to tell them with music. You tell a nice story here from what you heard. Thank you for re-gale-ing me with the wind, dear Char.
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michaeljayklein said 3349 days ago (April 18th, 2010)
Shades of Schoenberg!
Very intriguing and enjoyable excursion---thanks again Eduard!
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
Es ist Schön?
Schoenberg?! Now that is a name I would never have thought mentioned next to my music... not that it is a bad thing at all, just that I always think of my music as simple, consonantal, and his to be complex. So I take this as a compliment, that perhaps you hear me growing and experimenting a bit. Thank you Michael for such thoughts.
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magnatone said 3349 days ago (April 18th, 2010)
Sequence 3
ah, gorgeous work here - love your descriptions eduard. excellent synth work, very much enjoyed - thanks!
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
no grand magnatone orchestra
but if it is something different that you enjoy listening to and reading about, then I am very happy.
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particledots said 3349 days ago (April 18th, 2010)
Hi Icy
Very nice experiment and very pleasant on my ears

Interestingly, my latest 'tune' is called 'fragment 3' so as an experiment in randomness, I set your sequence 3 track playing at the sametime as fragment 3 - and they sounded beautiful together

Cheers

b
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
best things come in threes
It is serendipi3. I greatly enjoyed your fragment3 as well, and they do play well together. We shall have to coordinate our three-time.
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ste said 3349 days ago (April 18th, 2010)
interesting
experiment. like the way music can be composed in these more thoughtful ways. turned out as a spacey introspective piece. enjoyed the trip
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
thoughtful
some of us have to think a lot more to create music. It does not come as easily as your wonderful music does. However, I am glad that this result was worth the listen for you... I certainly enjoyed the creation process.
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Bethan_Mathis said 3348 days ago (April 19th, 2010)
Hi Eduard
Well, I am not in a position to give critical feedback because I feel I would be laughed out of Mj's, however I like it. It shows me a frozen wilderness covered in snow, blindingly bright sun and utter peace. Beautiful indeed.
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
we are all students
I am just learning things along the way too. And in place of critiques, your beautiful description of your mental imagery was even more valuable to me. Thank you for letting me see what you see.
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Doug Somers said 3348 days ago (April 19th, 2010)
Cool
or should I say Frigid? :) It's always interesting to me how sound can convey temperature. This piece warms up at 3:33 which makes for a nice development and contrast. Like a weak sun rising over a hilly horizon in a snowy expanse.

Love it Eduard - it works so well in the ambient style. Only nit - once you got onto the warmer tones I thought you could have developed things more and made it longer. Still, that's just my wanting to hear even more of your well crafted tones.

Take care,
Doug
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
-3 degrees celsius
you detected that sequence "3" warms at "3:33". I thawed you would notice that.

However, I have little time to experiment, and the hourglass emptied, and I wished to post this as it stood. There are many more directions this could expand I am sure. Thank you for your encouragement and your comments, Doug, they are very much appreciated by me.
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MarkHolbrook said 3348 days ago (April 19th, 2010)
Eduard
You are wacky! This is cool. Shay is neat.
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
mark is wacky, cool and neat too
I look forward to your next piece as well. This is what happens when music leaks out of the brain of a software engineer. Please get a mop.
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davisamerica said 3348 days ago (April 19th, 2010)
3
is a mystical number. a sacred number. well done.
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
3motional
3 has much power in music. waltz. triad. we shall see where 3 carries me next.
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Reinholt56 said 3348 days ago (April 19th, 2010)
Hi Eduard......
I just love experimental Ambient music!!

Treading where few have gone before sonically. It is an interesting trip. The music developed from a seemingly tentative beginning to a more Ambient last third, where, the Silk Moth emerged from the cocoon (musically speaking) and all was well.

Hopefully there will be more of these musical excursions??

Take care.

Paul
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
dearest paul
thank you for stopping in to sample my experiments. I really enjoy your journeys, and your thoughts on mine. I will attempt to chronicle my adventures as I enter this cocoon... hopefully someday to escape the confines of the ugly larva stage, and spread my musical wings, without getting boiled in the silkworm factory.
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michael2 said 3348 days ago (April 19th, 2010)
neat
i love your concept for this, and to my ears it is a super pleasant number. it really works as a song as well as an experiment . great track.
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
all it needs...
to morph it from ambient experiment to song is... some vocal melody. perhaps sometime we should talk, if you are interested :-)
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guitapick said 3348 days ago (April 19th, 2010)
The note experimentation...
...is interesting and effective...the textures are beautiful. I like how you take the bass out and then sneak it back in...very fine piece, ic42.
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
sneaking past bob
I cannot sneak anything past you... yes, I wanted to drop ALL rhythmic elements at once, and it gave me a feeling of suddenly launching off a cliff and sailing free on the music, weightless... not sure if it conveyed that feeling to others though. Thank you for listening to my departures from more traditional musical style. Your works are certainly breathtaking.
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guitapick said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
~
This is a wonderful piece, Eduard. It's so nice to let your mind go...like a balloon let go in a vast field...so nice
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dave_b said 3348 days ago (April 19th, 2010)
sequence3 - expambient
This piece sounds like it could be a background for a character trying to solve a difficult problem - the way the piece folds back into itself while retaining common elements all the way through seems similar to the way we trap ourselves in our problems from time to time. Sounds cool though
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
mobius thoughts
I tend to lean toward closure in music, and thus gently morphed away, then back to the original instrumentation, so the ending felt like a conclusion of sorts. However, the middle was indeed ponderous. Thank you for listening to the end, and finding your way out.
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Sigmund said 3348 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
I agree
with Doug Somers - I see visions of Antarctica as I listen to this. Very cold, yellow light from a sun close to the horizon, and not a soul for thousands of miles. I find it interesting how you visualize your creations, AND how you share your journey with us - very unique presentation, and very cool. How it end's up interesting music, and begins...somewhere else. Thank you for sharing your vision with us.
Sig
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
all my chilled ren.
I really enjoy slowing the music down, and allowing the mind time to gaze at all the facets, the beat frequencies and aural moire patterns that are created. The thumping bass in the beginning completely disappears in the middle of the piece, however, my mind puts it back in as a ghost... I swear I here it in there, even though I know it is gone in that section. musical mind games. I am happy to know these experiments are interesting to you... I will continue. And I will continue to enjoy your soaring music as well.
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Narad said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
Unusual
Gorgeous listen ! Muchly enjoyed. :)
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ic42 said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
I recognize the comment...
"unusual, gorgeous, enjoyed..." it sounds like something I say when listening to your music, Harald. Thank you.
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Henke said 3347 days ago (April 20th, 2010)
Can't think why, but
I came to think of Tangerine Dream's little piece Sequent C' of the Phaedra album (1973 or 74). I guess the two pieces resembles each other in a similar way as the titles do. I am especially weak for the part from 3.33 onwards, I think, even if the very ending is a bit abrup
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ConnieO said 3346 days ago (April 21st, 2010)
Cool
I especially like the crescendo midway through the song and at the ending. The sound kind of makes me feel like when I use to float on an air mattress in Lake Elmo; basking in the sun after too much beer!
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ic42 said 3346 days ago (April 21st, 2010)
Phaedra on repeat
I have the Phaedra CD, and liked some parts, and not others... I must listen to this again to hear the resemblance. I am not sure I understand what you mean by "weak"... it could be a good or bad meaning. The ending is a little abrupt, I agree, but it is difficult to end a perpetual loop. And I refuse to fade out :-) Thank you as always Henrik for listening and commenting. I hope you find time soon to offer us more of your enjoyable music too.
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ic42 said 3346 days ago (April 21st, 2010)
Connie O Connie
Always a pleasure to hear your thoughts (and music.) So this gives a warm glow... that is a very good feeling. Although I never grew a taste for beer, I am glad to bask in the music instead. And maybe some kahlua. :-)
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Diviner said 3342 days ago (April 25th, 2010)
Nice and cool
Lovely track Eduard, I do really like these ic42 tracks that you make. Enjoyed, reminds me very much of the ambient that was done by the now defunct record label 'Rising High'.
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ic42 said 3342 days ago (April 25th, 2010)
just a few notes...
Keith, it is quite challenging to try to do something with so little. so little time. so little brain. so it is a great joy to know you enjoy them. I shall squeeze out more soon, and I hope you do as well, since I really like your musical journeys as well.
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VicDiesel said 3321 days ago (May 16th, 2010)
Hm
I've heard this before and I thought I commented about it.

Anyway, still pleasant to listen to. The chords stay in one tonality, so there are no really major shifts to jar the listener's ear.
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ic42 said 3321 days ago (May 16th, 2010)
old-school joke...
"When is music not music? When it is a jar." I have not learned enough to be jarring (purposefully, anyway.) On the other hand, with not much interest or forward motion, this must remain short, so as not to cause somnambulant accidents by listeners.

This is the ambient-synth version of the earlier "Labores Solis" pieces, perhaps from where you suffered the deja vu. Thank you for listening and letting me know it is pleasant. Always helpful to get your thoughts on my works.
ttfn,
Drakonis
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867-5309 said 3298 days ago (June 8th, 2010)
tranquil
Eduard, this special one is thought-provoking -yet peaceful - I am glad I stopped here to listen ! scott horwath
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ic42 said 3298 days ago (June 8th, 2010)
provoqual
And I am very glad you stopped by to listen as well, thank you. A little further down my page, you will see my "behind-the-scenes LABORES SOLIS" talk where I discuss how this evolved, and some of the early experiments that landed in the waste bin of doom.
ttfn,
Drakonis
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papag said 3257 days ago (July 19th, 2010)
Theory Schmeory
From an idea an egg was hatched. I enjoyed the flow of this piece. Fav'd and dl'd
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ic42 said 3257 days ago (July 19th, 2010)
theory is simply a tool, at least in theory
perhaps it is not a magnum ovum, but if it caught your attention enough to fave and download, I am immensely flattered, thank you. And a grand welcome to Macjams to you. Perhaps I can return the favor sometime soon when you post some music of yours?
ttfn,
Drakonis
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MUSICAL_FIDELITY said 3251 days ago (July 25th, 2010)
Enjoyed
Nice wide mix, love the drone and top fx.
Will have to check out some more of your mixes.
Thanx for sharing and keep up the good work.
Ian R
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ic42 said 3251 days ago (July 25th, 2010)
experiments in sound are here
i am pleased they have been pleasurable. there are many others here too, i think you will enjoy exploring the soundscapes at macjams. i am enjoying yours.
ttfn,
Drakonis
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CrazeeFlootGrrl said 3240 days ago (August 5th, 2010)
sequence3 - expambient
Very cool soft sound! I like it! And for not that much variation it still moves nicely! Good work!
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ic42 said 3191 days ago (September 23rd, 2010)
just a little
sometimes just a little movement is all it takes... lots of movement can overload my circuits. :-)
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oldlibmike said 2960 days ago (May 12th, 2011)
Very nice - enoish
Unique sound and very good production - I love how you described the process. If you are into ambient music, you should check out Mixtikl if you haven't already. iPad and desktop (AU) versions which provide a means of creating generative music. The authors previously did Koan which Eno used to create an entire album.
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ic42 said 2960 days ago (May 12th, 2011)
ah, generative music...
another area I love exploring. I have not heard of MixTikl until now... thank you, I am off to google more software toys. Writing some Mac generative music software is on my to-do list. Unfortunately it is a very long list already. There are so many fun things to learn and try, sigh.
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it was not. it will not be. it simply is. it is an experiment in computer-generated music. it is altered afterward to sound more pleasing. a hope is to make beautiful music with computer software assistance. is it a success? ---------------------... [see more]

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Ambient music is a loosely defined musical genre that incorporates elements of a number of different styles - including jazz, electronic music, new age, rock and roll, modern classical music, reggae, traditional, world and even noise.

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