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this is for the Pass It On challenge - many thanks to Joe (jgurner) for organizing this challenge

Joe kicked it off by creating a really great song called "Imaginary Numbers" providing four tracks: bass, guitar, vocal, and drum loop. Joe posted his original version with his lyrics, so i won't copy the lyrics here

although the challenge rules gave me three days to do my work before passing it along to Jack (davisamerica), something came up and i ended up having only one day to complete this

i did a small bit of arranging, removed a brief break between the chorus and second verse (it seemed like it needed to keep moving along there) and repeated the chorus at the end an extra time for the fade. cutting the tracks went fairly well, although removing the clicks from the bass track was a pain (why does bass always have click troubles with splices?)

i also replaced the chords for the bridge: the original just didn't work for me. so i found something new to fit the existing vocals and bass

on the vocals, i layered the chorus repeats over each other to get a double-tracked effect. i also doubled up the verses by mixing in a copy with pitch correction turned way up - it adds just the right amount of flanging

in a way, the bridge is the most profound part of the lyrics, so i layered on some voice transformed copies: an octave up, and an octave down, with ridiculously huge matrix reverb, and some choir backup to boot. i hope it worked

since i changed the chords for the bridge (and therefore i had no guitar track for it), i doubled all the guitar track on piano throughout the verses and chorus. that way, when the bridge shows up there is still some continuity provided by the piano since the guitar had to drop away there.

i left the bass track as is, except for those splices, and one little fade in during opening of the bridge

i totally tossed out the drum loop, and made up my own. i thought the feeling of the song was better suited to one-two-THREE-four. but i did steal a few fills from loops and modified them. it would be much better with real drums

finally, i added a little echoey piano motif at the beginning and the end just because, plus added some rumbling universe-sized noises for intro and extro

i hope you like it. i had lots of fun doing it!
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jgurner said 3003 days ago (July 29th, 2011)
Holy Cow!
This is awesome. You gave it such a trippy sound, especially from the bridge on. Your chord changes there are so much better than mine (so are the drums). I love it. I literally got chill bumps. This is just fantastic! I can't wait until I can listen at home through real speakers.

Thanks for taking part in this Bill! This has been a blast!
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SmokeyVW said 3003 days ago (July 29th, 2011)
thanks for letting me diddle with your song - i always fear messing things up or missing the point, so it's a comfort to hear that you like it.

yes. it was a blast indeed

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VicDiesel said 3003 days ago (July 29th, 2011)
Oh, really nice work in rearranging those vocals. That stuff after 4:20 is absolutely brilliant. That swelling choir is also beautiful.

Now that I've heard the original, I'd say that you mixed the main vocal too far back. Even with your more spacious conception of the song it could be a tad more forward.
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SmokeyVW said 3003 days ago (July 29th, 2011)
glad you liked it! i was hesitant to take the song too far away from the original since i was only at step 2 of the chain... so i focussed mostly on the vocals.

i was wondering about the vocal level too - now that you've said it's too far back, i agree.

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Jarvoid said 3003 days ago (July 29th, 2011)
perhaps the singer has taken stage fright and buggered off to the back !......80)

still,to have the engineering skills to mess about with the tracks is still pretty awesome in my book...

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PaulaMunk said 3003 days ago (July 29th, 2011)
Joseph sounds a bit too quiet
but that makes the whole thing more intimate. Nice bit of tinkering, Bill. Thanks.
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bud said 3003 days ago (July 29th, 2011)
Until I read the other comments
I was fine with the vocal placement - and I think I still am. I tend to set vocals back myself. Excellent work on the drum and bridge changes. Also - the layered vocal work is awesome. Very cool take on the original.
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davisamerica said 3003 days ago (July 29th, 2011)
It was such a treat working off your files. The choir and piano were what I captured immediately. This was total fun.
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magnatone said 3003 days ago (July 29th, 2011)
Pass it On
you did this in one day? sigh ... you're amazing bill, and this is VERY cool!
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MarkHolbrook said 3002 days ago (July 30th, 2011)
really is amazing as is his take on this! Awesome!
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J_Gretch said 3002 days ago (July 30th, 2011)
i (PIO2011/stage 2)
Masterful arrangement and mix.

I've always considered Vox as just another instrument track and not necessarily lead,,, So edging it back doesn't bother me at all.

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dave_b said 3002 days ago (July 30th, 2011)
i (PIO2011/stage 2)
Like what you did, particularly the drums.
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Moviz said 3001 days ago (July 31st, 2011)
this a lot...... great words and vocals.... it has a Beatles-esque sound to it.... love the 'lift' at about 3-20..... a great job you did here Bill, regards M
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alackbass said 3000 days ago (August 1st, 2011)
i (PIO2011/stage 2)
This is growing nicely! The new bridge changes and bigger vocal treatment gives this a great Floyd vibe!
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