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Complex Simplicity



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ivax - guitar
Ernie440 - bass
mrrocker0 - keys
loob - drums, percussion

A starter mix I will be shopping for vocals on.
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Uploaded: May 18, 2019 - 08:26:52 PM
Last Updated: May 18, 2019 - 08:28:09 PM Last Played: Jun 12, 2019 - 08:42:31 AM
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Vic Holman said 28 days ago (May 18th, 2019)
backing track
great backing track. a bluesy vocalist would be great here.
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Fire_Angel said 28 days ago (May 18th, 2019)
Lovely work.
I particularly like the bass on this, very clean and yet expressive. Nice fast runs on the keyboard, a nice guitar tone, there's a lot to like. With some power voiced vocals this would be amazing, I hope you find someone to rip into song on top if this.
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Daugrin said 27 days ago (May 19th, 2019)
Starter Mix
The percussion and bass on this tune inspire me to play. Let me make Daug style suggestions on the production side please...
The hand drumming works great but might benefit from a subtle upper mid boost to cut through a bit more? Try it, the sound of the hand on the drum head will cut through.
I think that fab descending organ run is redundant the second time. You have to write something else at the point. I would also suggest moving the pitch of the organ part up an octave to get it a place of it's own to sit. There is lots of room at the top of this mix where the B-3 would sit more comfortably. Some B-3 stabbing vs the layering presented might add energy. Give the layering to a low octave phaser enhanced clav with the third and seventh of the chords as guild tones. You might have to carve a place for the low clav in the mix, I would take the thirds from the B3.
Might give the guitar lines to a Rhodes with vibro echo. I think ya need to save the lead guitar voice to punctuate the vocals I am almost certain you are going to get... This is a really well done backer!

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Loob said 27 days ago (May 20th, 2019)
Thanks for your feedback
I don't usually worry about mix during the "in process" phase. That is for later. The octave thing I could see. I will see if I can get the keyboardist to consider this. I have the stems, and I usually work the arrangement based on the vocals. It changes everything when you put vocals in. Your feedback might even change once this is done. Do you really think about EQ and mix during performance phase? That is for later, after performance is done. No?
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Daugrin said 26 days ago (May 21st, 2019)
All at once
I hear the thing all at once, which is clearly my problem and not yours. Lol. I have templates for genre, I have a band sound I go for... If something is not right, I make it right as quickly as possible because I may stop hearing something before I can get it finished. Once that happens and it does, where I just don't hear the thing anymore, way more times than not, there is not much else to do but go onto the next thing. Music is not a labor, it is a chase of inspiration. Got to focus on what it is your hearing.
EQ is the most important aspect of production. If the instrument is recorded poorly, or does not include the attitude or genre specific flavor I am hearing I can't use the performance no matter how well the something is performed. There is no way to fix wrong. We can only manipulate wrong until it approximates what we are going for...
There are lots of rules in the way. Like this one, never repeat a piece of information more than three times without augmentation. Listen to an Eagles record, even the hooks get refreshed on the third appearance. Jazz rules. The question is always, "Don't you have something new to say?" "No?" "Then shut up and let someone else speak, rather than repeat yourself." Very simple. Want to prove this to yourself? Listen to pop music from any era. The utility of the "repeating stuff" rule shines through.

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Loob said 25 days ago (May 21st, 2019)
I didn't say EQ is not important. That was wasted energy man. I just said it's not my focus at the moment. If I stop to EQ something I am no longer focusing on arrangement. It's that simple. It's priorities, and an order of production. When the piece is finished then you can give that critique. Thanks man.
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DWL said 26 days ago (May 20th, 2019)
Looking forward
to the version with vocals.


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